Posted on 05/15/2006 5:14:48 PM PDT by Leisler
...It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border....
Kinda contradicts himself here. Claims the US Border Patrol itself has 'sent home 6 million people in the past 5 years', he then later states the deportation canard that 'it is not realistic to round up millions of people'.
Yeah, my neighbors and friends all draw maps on how to break into my house and steal my valuables.
Rounding them up is cost-prohibitive, I accept that argument, actually. But there are alternatives; start cutting off finaicial aid, driver's licences, medical coverage, and so on for anyone who cannot prove that they are an actualy citizen of the US of A. Make hiring illegals to work a felony.
They come here because the spigot is alwqays a'running. Flip the switch to "OFF". Simple.
I'm wondering what Bush will say. I am living this Illegal Immigration nightmare everyday in California. But, it's a nightmare for a few reasons in particular
1. I'm trying to move from one place to another. So far, I've moved everything myself. I have couches and a washer/ dryer to move, and no moving company wants any part of it. Too small.
I've offered a couple of college kids 100 bucks to move these three items from my place to a place right across the street. No go. They want 100 a peice, and they warn me that if they get hurt, I should have insurance. (Do they intend to sue me?) They don't want the job otherwise. It would have taken them all of 30 minutes for everything.
So, I ask my Property Manager who would do it? He says "Pablo" I know Pablo. His plan is to go to the local 7-11 and pick up a couple guys. Pablo's guys will do it for the $100 of course.
I can't stand the options here. I will find a way, without using illegal help. $200 bucks is crazy, but I may have to do it.
2 We are having one hell of a time at work, replacing three housekeepers. It seems no one has the correct paperwork. We've already had two people fail background. When we try talking to a citizen (a woman we see here from time to time) , she don't want the job. We pay $11 an hour to start. Those are not "slave wages" The same person will gladly take $9 an hour to sell shoes at the local Payless.
I'm not trying to say what Bush will likley say "Jobs Americans just won't do" because I know that if I were in anyplace but Spanish-immersion land (California), it would be easier to find folks to do the work. This place is a mix of ME ME ME spoiled rotteness, and ego.
The real reason we're in this mess is becuase nothing has been done about it for so long that it's become a way of life. It's not that the girl I mentioned wouldn't work for $11 an hour, it's that she won't do that job at any reasonable price! She's been brought up to belive it's beneath her.
These are real problems, happening to real people. I'm not saying that folks from places like Ohio don't have a right to their opinions, but they certainly aren't experiencing this think first hand. Our Housekeeping Manager has had to work 16 hours a day. He's about to walk out himself.
So, I need solutions, not problems. Either I need an American or Registered Alien to take these jobs, or I need a guest worker. Either way, I've got work to be done.
There'll be 200 million in 20 years, though.
Somehow we ended up with 60 million Irish when there were only about 3 to 5 million in all of Ireland. Thank God that they were willing to become true Americans.
I'll vote for anyone who will enforce our laws. El Presidente's framed color photo is coming down off the wall and going into the closet.
There'll be 200 million in 20 years, though.
Somehow we ended up with 60 million Irish when there were only about 3 to 5 million in all of Ireland. Thank God that they were willing to become true Americans.
... well the Massachusetts Ireland excepted, of course...
...to secure the border we must create a guest worker program."
What??? Somebody explain this one to me, please. I don't get it.
"Second, to secure our border, we must create a temporary worker program."
What logic. LOL!
"This program would match willing foreign workers with willing American employers for jobs Americans are not doing."
LOL. All of the sudden new business lobbies will spring up, "Us too, us too, American are not doing the jobs we have!"
The solutions sounded rather cosmetic and without substance. I would have liked to hear some policy suggestions that would address the problem in a more comprehensive manner. Basically, he said, "we'll get to it - eventually".
I'm surprised so many people are being so hard on Bush after that speech. He only said 90% of the things that people like Tancredo who are serious about border security have been calling for. I haven't been a Bush fan at all on domestic policy other than taxes, but I don't get all the hostility towards him by folks here. I mean, if he's serious and does what he says, how is it a bad thing??? Am I missing something?
I don't need no stinkin ticket, but I am not happy, and in all honesty, feel a bit betrayed.
Huck
you know whatever. The onus was on Bush tonight to bring our party back together. He failed horribly. The Repubs can forget my vote in the fall. And I am not even kidding.
I caught that too. If he can send home 6 million in 5 years, then why can't he send home just twice that many who are already here?
Bush just sold us out!
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He sold us out six years ago. This testimonial finally was the closure on the issue. Of course there was no mention of the impact on the country, the cost to American citizens, any of it. What a total crock of political crap from the El Jefe, the NWO sell out.
Bush just sang his swan song in my book.
Fourth, we must face the reality that millions of illegal immigrants are already here. They should not be given an automatic path to citizenship. This is amnesty, and I oppose it. Amnesty would be unfair to those who are here lawfully – and it would invite further waves of illegal immigration.An amnesty is a forgiveness, an pardon of sorts. It's not "citizenship" or an automatic path to citizenship. Compounding these lies he cast his opponents as believing an "amnesty" is a "deportation" of "every illegal immigrant." I have never heard anyone say a deportation was an amnesty. Very tricky wordplay. He would have been better to be honest and not lie, eg "I said I was against an amnesty, I've changed my mind."Some in this country argue that the solution is to deport every illegal immigrant – and that any proposal short of this amounts to amnesty. I disagree. It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border. There is a rational middle ground between granting an automatic path to citizenship for every illegal immigrant, and a program of mass deportation.
They will reproduce.
A big Amen! to that. I saw it too. Gingrich is far too smart for the GOP to put him up for president. He would make people like Rove, McCain, Specter, et. al. look like clowns.
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