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To: Wormwood
Read the damn posts from some of these people. America is not just a white country and NEVER has been. The whole Southwest was part of Mexico before wars. These California kooks who think no Mexican Americans belong don't even know history. And the doofus Jimbaugh or whatever is the worst. Good God, not everyone crossed the damn border at night, many of these posts do sound like the stereotype of FR the press gives.
1,313 posted on 05/15/2006 5:55:57 PM PDT by bfree ("Smoke 'em if you got 'em")
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To: bfree
Read the damn posts from some of these people.

I have. Lots of complaints about illegal aliens, virtually nothing about legal immigration.

You seem to be the one injecting race into this thread.

1,335 posted on 05/15/2006 5:57:35 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: bfree
New England belonhed to the American Indians before we got here. You want to give it back, great! Find an Indian and give him your house.

These California kooks who think no Mexican Americans belong don't even know history. And the doofus Jimbaugh or whatever is the worst. Good God, not everyone crossed the damn border at night, many of these posts do sound like the stereotype of FR the press gives.

The fact that most illegals are from Mexico does NOT mean people think Mexican Americans "don't belong." Playing the race card is a favorite ploy of Liberals and others who hate America. I see you are playing it. Everyone can draw their own conclusions.

1,393 posted on 05/15/2006 6:02:16 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: bfree
The whole Southwest was part of Mexico before wars. These California kooks who think no Mexican Americans belong don't even know history.

I think most of us kooks are quite aware that the SW belonged to Mexico. For a few years, anyway.

On the other hand, you're the Doofus if you think there was anything more here than a few spanish ranchers and native indians - and zero mexican indians. Mexico did exactly squat with the entire area, hence deserved to lose it to a better, stronger society.

I hope you don't have a problem with that.

1,416 posted on 05/15/2006 6:04:22 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: bfree

During the entire history of both Spanish and Mexican "claims" to California (1) the majority of people in California was not Mexicans but members of native north-American tribes, (2)the land held under active jurisdiction and active administration by either Mexico or Spain was a small % of the land "claimed", (3)both Spain and Mexico refused their own obligations to affectively administer California, left most administration to the Church and by the time of California's independence had been financially letting even the Church infrstructure in California to decline.

When California declared its independence from Mexico, persons of Mexican or Spanish decent comprised less than 50% of the people in California and the first independent Governor of California was a man of mixed African-American and native Californian ancestry.

The Mexican claims to most of the southwest always were predominately at most the crown or the state making a claim, not excercizing it in a major, comprehensive, consistent, productive way.


2,975 posted on 05/16/2006 12:08:29 AM PDT by Wuli
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