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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: kabar

Actually this will increase the flow. They are betting on Bush as their guy.


1,061 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:04 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: HHKrepublican_2
Shutting the border completely is political suicide.

Political suicide is allowing the illegal influx of millions future Democratic voters every year.

1,062 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:06 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: clawrence3; All

I thought it was 1965...


1,063 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:08 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: TomGuy
They aren't all coming here to pick lettuce. Wake UP!

I can't think of a single terror attack in the last five years.....if terrorists had sneaked over, think we might have experienced something?

Bush just outlined a huge jump in border security, something that can PASS Congress.

1,065 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:12 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

"Shutting the border completely is political suicide."

Allowing poor minorites to gain citizenship simply because they broke the law 2 years ago instead of 3 months ago will kill the republican party PERMINANTLY


1,066 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:14 PM PDT by RHINO369 (Politicians are not born; they are excreted.)
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To: michigander
Our new immigrants are just what they have always been people willing to risk everything for the dream of freedom.

They're NOT immigrants El Presidente, they're trespassers who don't even dignify the process by starting it. How likely are they to get this Guest ID card? Who will check anyway?

1,067 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:16 PM PDT by kcar
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Agreed, the emotions are taking over with many here.
Sad to see...........


1,068 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:19 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()......Lt. Dan Band Rocks ........()
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To: jackv

"The majority of reasonable compassionate conservatives will be fair and reasonable."

Reasonable compassionate conservatives = RINO. If the shoe fits, wear it.


1,069 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:24 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Y)
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To: oceanview

Go Tom go! Let the fight begin. I am so sick of RINOS!


1,070 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:27 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.)
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To: All
Bush's speech? Lost's of fluff but no teeth. There was NO mention of increasing fines or making it more risky to hire illegals.

Unless the illegals have no job & no government services of any kind AND NO FEAR OF BEING DEPORTED, NONE of them will leave.

Why does Bush think that illegals here less than 2 years will "have to go home"?

What is gonna make them go home?

He had a good outline, but there was no teeth to fight the REAL problem. The REAL problem is employers who hire illegals and pay no withholding taxes, no social security withholdings. I'll bet those "jobs no one will do" would be a little more attractive to Americans if we got to keep 100% of the pay like the illegals do, huh?

If 20,000,000 Mexicans want to become US citizens (and pay income taxes, SS taxes, health insurance and auto insurance, etc...) fine. This isn't racial nor ethnic. It's about abiding by the law and playing by the rules that all US citizens currently have to abide by.

1,071 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:30 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right....)
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To: zook

Although I think GWB has done an extremely commendable job on the economy and the WOT, his willful disregard towards our southern border is disgraceful. I received earlier an email from Congressman John Culberson of Texas (he represents Bush senior's district) which talked about how he attended a meeting in Houston with illegal aliens in 2004 accompanied by two Bush representatives. In that meeting they said they had no intention of enforcing our immigration laws. Rep Culberson said he held his tongue but immediately wrote Pres Bush saying this is poor policy. He claims to have tried to talk to Bush about this many times but was continually rebuffed. Pres Bush's speech tonight I'm afraid is nothing but pablum for the masses and PR to show he is doing something when in actuality there is nothing going on behind the curtain.


1,072 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:32 PM PDT by revisionisteconomist
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To: clawrence3
Was what the president just proposed anything like the Bracero program?
1,073 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:33 PM PDT by mthom
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To: Tribune7
Dubya will go down as one of our great presidents"

The speech today will ensure that does NOT happen.

1,074 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:33 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Bush is triangulating you like Clinton did.


1,075 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:35 PM PDT by TFine80
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To: Yaelle

Did you read what else I said???? Stop giving away all the freebies and make these people EARN their own keep.
I agree with that.
But to round up 12 million + people because authorities did not do THEIR jobs enforcing the laws and to build a wall, is isolationist.


1,076 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:51 PM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Shutting the border completely is political suicide?

Show me one poll that suggests that the American piblic opposes a secure border.


1,077 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:53 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Mmm! The tears of unfathomable sadness! Yummy!)
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To: A.Hun

LAX 7/4/2002

>>I can't think of a single terror attack in the last five years.....if terrorists had sneaked over, think we might have experienced something?


1,079 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:56 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: pissant
We supposedly did this to stop the influx under Reagan and the amount of illegals that came here since then increased over 500%.

Nothing about what Bush said will stop illegals.

He just buried himself further in the polls and probably just screwed the Republican party even more so.

I don't like it.

We need to let officers arrest illegals inland.
We need to be removing the illegals we find as we come across them and we should confiscate all their uninsured cars that clutter the roads.

No amnesty please, instead let the sh!t hose Mexico fix their own problems or ask for us to annex them into our country on our terms.
1,080 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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