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BUSH: WE CAN'T BOOT 11M ILLEGALS
NY Post ^ | 5/15/06

Posted on 05/15/2006 5:48:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone

May 15, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - In his live, nationally televised address tonight, President Bush will tell Americans that it's impossible to deport the estimated 11 million illegal aliens living here.

"We must reject amnesty, but recognize that it is not realistic to round up millions of people and send them home," said White House spokeswoman Maria Tamburri in a preview of Bush's speech.

She said Bush plans to spell out his vision for sealing the border, enforcing the law, and "creating a rational system for workers to come into our country and to do jobs Americans won't do." Bush plans to visit the U.S.-Mexican border this week, and will dispatch his Cabinet to help sell the immigration plan.

The Senate plans to return to the contentious issue this week now that Republicans and Democrats have a deal to plow through controversial amendments. But the House and Senate are far apart on whether to put illegals on a path to citizenship.

Tamburri said Bush would call for "better equipment, increased funding, and advanced technology" to secure the border.

She didn't confirm press reports that Bush wants to expand deployments of National Guard Troops to step up border enforcement. Some Guard troops are already deployed in Arizona and New Mexico, but Bush is considering a big increase.

White House National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said that enforcement was the Border Patrol's job - but then asked whether they needed help from the Guard on an "interim basis."

"This is not about militarizing the border," he said. The president is looking to do everything he can to secure the border. It's what the American people want."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; deportation; fraud; gutlessrino; jorgearbustoisback; sham
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To: areafiftyone

And put who in office???

I suggest we import Fox and run him. Like Bush, he has the illegal's interests at heart and his government runs much like ours. Bribery, corruption, arrogance, spin etc.


761 posted on 05/15/2006 9:44:23 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey (what support is Sinclair giving to a candidate)
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To: Racehorse

I could live with a mile wide shipping channel from Brownsville to San Diego...


762 posted on 05/15/2006 9:44:24 AM PDT by null and void (Islam wasn't hijacked on 9/11. It was exposed.)
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To: areafiftyone

Yes, I agree


763 posted on 05/15/2006 9:44:26 AM PDT by delmaun (Agree)
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To: Tarpon
Bush is supporting the much tougher House plan over the Senate version. When he, or in this case his spokesperson, says "No Amnesty" he means no path to citizenship or permanent residency. He does not mean "no forgiveness" for breaking our immigration laws. So what he'd proposing is a guest worker program, with the permits being for limited time.

That might not be my favored solution, but it's a heck of lot better than the "road to citizenship" of the Senate version, it's better than the current situation, with the border out of control, and it's probably about as much as can be passed, if that much can be.

764 posted on 05/15/2006 9:44:29 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
Bush is supporting the much tougher House plan over the Senate version.

No, he is not. He caucused with Senate Dems and Senate RINOs and excluded conservative Senators.

765 posted on 05/15/2006 9:45:25 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: brytlea
We don't NEED cheaper lawn care.

WE? I'm sorry, I didn't know YOU made all the decisions in a free society.

The question I addressed was not about illegal immigrants BTW. My comments concerned the point about jobs "Americans won't do".

You say, "WE" don't need those services that are provided, but the truth is, it's none of your business from an economic stand point.

766 posted on 05/15/2006 9:46:19 AM PDT by Protagoras ("Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious".... George Orwell)
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To: Syncretic
But his current policy of deliberate nonenforcement of the law is a textbook definition of corruption.

That turns out not to be the case. Executive branch's at all levels have always had discretion in how they enforce the law as written, or even if they do.

That said, raids on employers have been stepped up, border surveillance has been increased.

767 posted on 05/15/2006 9:47:09 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: zzen01

OK let's boot Bush!




EXACTLY


768 posted on 05/15/2006 9:48:05 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: Little Ray

LOL. Then you can trust me. ;)
susie


769 posted on 05/15/2006 9:49:49 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: TomasUSMC

Like your tagline...


770 posted on 05/15/2006 9:51:01 AM PDT by null and void (Islam wasn't hijacked on 9/11. It was exposed.)
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To: null and void
I could live with a mile wide shipping channel from Brownsville to San Diego...

What a terrifically wonderful idea!

We could go halfsies with Mexico, on the stipulation all the labor was done by southern border immigrants housed on the Mexican side.  That would keep them at work for what, twenty years or more?  Not to mention the towns and cities and businesses and industries that would spring up to service channel shipping.

You, my friend, are a genius!

p.s.  it would also solve the chronic irrigation water squabbling.

771 posted on 05/15/2006 9:52:07 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: CMAC51

It's pretty easy, actually. Rome was not built in a day.

There is no question that Phase I has to be to CLOSE the borders. I just read an article yesterday that one Mexican national has been in US jails 20x, and deported each time. Obviously, deportation at all will not work if the borders are porous. So get those borders closed first and we will talk.

Next, Phase II won't be that onerous or expensive. In every city, send ICE agents into several large, small, and family businesses. Hit the playgrounds for the illegal nannies. Arrest and fine employers. Jail a few. Keep going for a few months. BINGO, everyone else drops their illegals.

Without jobs, they go home. They go home now for holidays; without jobs here, they will go back.


772 posted on 05/15/2006 9:52:52 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Spiff
In his live, nationally televised address tonight, President Bush will tell Americans that it's impossible to deport the estimated 11 million illegal aliens living here.

Listen carefully for the recommendation that a special commission for Mexican refugees to be set up in the U.N.
This will be a permanent commission whose members will be elected democratically by the the general assembly. The first commission will be headed by Venezuela. Members will be Cuba, Iran, Boliva and Syria. The General Assembly is expected to vote shortly as to whether the United States is committing human rights violations and whether the United States should be fined $1 billion per day for each day refugees are detained against their wishes. In it's first resolution the commission has voted to begin sanctions against the U.S. until such time as the U.S. reverses it's terrorist policies against the Mexican people.
773 posted on 05/15/2006 9:53:49 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey (what support is Sinclair giving to a candidate)
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To: CitizenJ

"It seems to me there hasn't been a terrorist hit in the U.S. since 2001. That seems like a great record to me."

And up until 2001, there had not been a terrorist hit in the U.S. since 1993. I suppose you'd call that a pretty good record too?


774 posted on 05/15/2006 9:54:36 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: CMAC51
"It's still magic because in the real world doubling a budget does not double output, it is called the law of diminishing returns."

There is no indication that the "law of diminishing returns" applies. In many cases, doubling budget results in MORE than a doubling of output. It depends on how the budget is applied.

"You can effectively deport 11 million illegal aliens. TRUE or FALSE?""

True, and I've already proved how you do it.

"You have a population of 11 million illegals. Over the course of the year you deport 1.5 million. Over the course of that 365 days you have 9.5 million illegals within the country who were functional plus any new additions that make it in. Deportation does not control that community because for that 9.5 million deportation did not affect them. If the best you can do is say "one out of every 8 of you who try will not be successful," you will continue to have the 8 try because the risk reward equation favors the illegal."

Your comparison is stupidly bogus. The factor contolling reduction is not how many area already here, but how many cross the border to replenish the ones you deport. The number already present doesn't enter into the factors AT ALL, other than it either increases or decreases as border influx is greater or less than the deportation rate.

"A solution is possible. It just won't involve the concept of deporting 11 million illegal aliens. That is a flawed concept and any solution based on it will ultimately be flawed also."

I'm still waiting for one of you FROBLs to tell me WHY it's impossible/flawed. Thus far, not a one of you has done so.

775 posted on 05/15/2006 9:55:13 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: 13Sisters76

If they can sqeeze 21 people in a pickup truck, short bed, I would think we could do quite well with limited buses


776 posted on 05/15/2006 9:55:19 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey (what support is Sinclair giving to a candidate)
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To: Protagoras; brytlea
You say, "WE" don't need those services that are provided, but the truth is, it's none of your business from an economic stand point.

Well, it is my business.  Why?  Just because I want to make it my business.  That's enough.

Having any influence about it, now that is a whole different horse story, tomadachi.  :-)

777 posted on 05/15/2006 9:58:38 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: CodeToad

sign me up.


778 posted on 05/15/2006 9:59:15 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: lemura
If they (pro-illegals) want to support illegal aliens, why don't they focus on overturning/modifying our immigration/labor laws via the democratic process?

Unfortunately, that's exactly what WE are about to let them do.

779 posted on 05/15/2006 10:02:27 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: El Gato
So what Bush is proposing is a guest worker program, with the permits being for limited time.

Were it so. Acknowledging that he can't remove illegals that are here now, proposes to reclassify the illegals here now as "Guest Workers", and have his successor in office deport the now official "Guests" after they have further set down roots and had more anchor babies. Nobody believe they will be deported then. It it just delayed Amnesty.

Sources report, and his every word and action suggest, that Bush really wants wholescale Amnesty now, and that the Guest Worker thing is just a sham towards that end.

780 posted on 05/15/2006 10:03:36 AM PDT by Plutarch
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