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To: CMAC51
"It's still magic because in the real world doubling a budget does not double output, it is called the law of diminishing returns."

There is no indication that the "law of diminishing returns" applies. In many cases, doubling budget results in MORE than a doubling of output. It depends on how the budget is applied.

"You can effectively deport 11 million illegal aliens. TRUE or FALSE?""

True, and I've already proved how you do it.

"You have a population of 11 million illegals. Over the course of the year you deport 1.5 million. Over the course of that 365 days you have 9.5 million illegals within the country who were functional plus any new additions that make it in. Deportation does not control that community because for that 9.5 million deportation did not affect them. If the best you can do is say "one out of every 8 of you who try will not be successful," you will continue to have the 8 try because the risk reward equation favors the illegal."

Your comparison is stupidly bogus. The factor contolling reduction is not how many area already here, but how many cross the border to replenish the ones you deport. The number already present doesn't enter into the factors AT ALL, other than it either increases or decreases as border influx is greater or less than the deportation rate.

"A solution is possible. It just won't involve the concept of deporting 11 million illegal aliens. That is a flawed concept and any solution based on it will ultimately be flawed also."

I'm still waiting for one of you FROBLs to tell me WHY it's impossible/flawed. Thus far, not a one of you has done so.

775 posted on 05/15/2006 9:55:13 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog

What's a FROBL?


783 posted on 05/15/2006 10:07:20 AM PDT by null and void (Islam wasn't hijacked on 9/11. It was exposed.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
I'm still waiting for one of you FROBLs to tell me WHY it's impossible/flawed. Thus far, not a one of you has done so.

You win, as long as outflow exceeds inflow by at least 1 per time unit, and time frame is irrelevant, it is possible to deport 11 million. Well, kinda, since most of them will have died of old age before it happens and you won't really have deported 11 million.

There is no indication that the "law of diminishing returns" applies. In many cases, doubling budget results in MORE than a doubling of output. It depends on how the budget is applied.

Okay, you lay it out then. Where will you apply double the budget to net a doubling of effect. For instance what is your forecast for the increase in court costs? How about enforcement personnel, capital equipment, detention facilities, legal representation, health and human services logistics?

The law of diminishing returns most definitely applies since any increase in program effectiveness will be met with an increase of resistance activities. In the real world anyway.

As an aside, what is FROBL? I'm not familiar with the term.

838 posted on 05/15/2006 12:03:23 PM PDT by CMAC51
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