BUSH: WE CAN'T BOOT 11M ILLEGALS

NY Post ^ | 5/15/06

[areafiftyone]

May 15, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - In his live, nationally televised address tonight, President Bush will tell Americans that it's impossible to deport the estimated 11 million illegal aliens living here.

"We must reject amnesty, but recognize that it is not realistic to round up millions of people and send them home," said White House spokeswoman Maria Tamburri in a preview of Bush's speech.

She said Bush plans to spell out his vision for sealing the border, enforcing the law, and "creating a rational system for workers to come into our country and to do jobs Americans won't do." Bush plans to visit the U.S.-Mexican border this week, and will dispatch his Cabinet to help sell the immigration plan.

The Senate plans to return to the contentious issue this week now that Republicans and Democrats have a deal to plow through controversial amendments. But the House and Senate are far apart on whether to put illegals on a path to citizenship.

Tamburri said Bush would call for "better equipment, increased funding, and advanced technology" to secure the border.

She didn't confirm press reports that Bush wants to expand deployments of National Guard Troops to step up border enforcement. Some Guard troops are already deployed in Arizona and New Mexico, but Bush is considering a big increase.

White House National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said that enforcement was the Border Patrol's job - but then asked whether they needed help from the Guard on an "interim basis."

"This is not about militarizing the border," he said. The president is looking to do everything he can to secure the border. It's what the American people want."

[brytlea]

I think anyone who thinks it is a new issue has not been paying attention.
susie

[brytlea]

This is about appearences and the political will to do the right thing. Mass deportation would sure LOOK ugly - and the comparisons to the Nazis would be valid. Like the Nazis, we'd be transporting HUGE numbers of people of under guard to camps where they would be confined under armed guard.

Thanks for clarifying that. I was afraid you really did mean what you said.

susie

[null and void]

From the "WHOA, didn't see THAT one coming" Department of the Obvious: 1.Who didn't think that the *now* $6.00-an-hour illegal would be granted amnesty and voila'(sorry, don't know the spanish word for voila'), becomes *newly formed union member* demanding $18.00 an-hour for same job? Suddenly, the cheap wage excuse has ended and the amnesty has been about WHAT, exactly? A brand new democrat voting union has been formed, and once again, we find ourselves screwed.

You missed part 2:

The $18.00 an-hour workers get replaced by a whole new crop of invaders, and need to go on public assistance, because they can't find jobs...

[processing please hold]

it seems like a no-brainer for a good FReeper.

It does seem like a no-brainer, that's what is so astounding. That so many FReepers can't figure it out.

[Protagoras]

Many of us are not too lazy to cut our own grass, thank you. susie

Looks like you missed the point. Read it again, this time thoughtfully.

BTW, I do my own lawn too susie.

[brytlea]

I'm against anyone who breaks our laws to come and stay in our country illegally. Aren't you? Or is it ok as long as someone is paying for your Mom's prescriptions and your investments are doing well?

[CMAC51]

If you shut the border (Bush seems to be saying he wants to do that--I'll try to take him at his word), and then start repatriating even one million per year, sounds like the problem would be solved in 11 years or so. How is that a bad thing? susie

If you have a functioning illegal community for the aliens to enter, you will have an inflow of illegals. By changing tactics on border control you can produce short term impact, but over the long haul, the motivated will find a way in because if they get in they can melt into the functioning illegal community. The bottom line is that deporting 1 to 2 million per year will not diminish the size of the illegal population within the country.

[Protagoras]

Anything to sell other than fear?

[Hostage]

I remember why 187 was not enacted, it was stayed pending a court challenge and then leftist whore Davis decided not to fight the challenge.

But I forget about 200, can you refresh me? tia.

[LadyNavyVet]

Maybe I am a pessimist. I know I've become a cynic. I've just seen too often the cognitive dissonance a lot of Cahtolics have between the way they conduct their lives and the way they vote.

My own dear father-in-law is a good example. A more conservative businessman you will never meet, but even as he rails against the popular culture, abortion, high taxes, etc., he votes liberal Democrat every time, because they're for "average Americans, not the fat cats." It drives me nuts.

I hope you're right and I'm wrong, because the Republicans are banking their future on Hispanics voting conservative, and I see no evidence of that from history.

[trubluolyguy]

they have scared Hispanics with threats that the deportations are going to be massive and draconian

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Never happen. No one in government has the spine for it.

[ZULU]

Unfortunately, we can't boot Bush.

We're stuck with him.

Even if impeachment was a viable option, it would take as long as the rest of his term and would encourage the Rats and weaken any opposition.

When the President of the United States makes comments like

"The president made clear that the United States considers Mexico a friend and that what is being considered is not militarization of the border but support of Border Patrol capabilities on a temporary basis by National Guard personnel," said White House spokeswoman Maria Tamburri."

we KNOW he has either

a) lost all touch with reality, or,

b) equates "comapssionate conservatism" with a distillation of modern day Methodism and liberal Catholicism.

The best we can do is turn up the pressure on maggots like Chuckie Hegel, John McCain, and other RINOs who are supporting this kind of insanity and make it clear to them that we woould rather be screwed by people who openly voice their opposition to what we believe in, rather than by people who pretend to represent us, and then screw us in the back.

And YES, Mr. President, we CAN round up 11 million plus illegal invaders.

We can implement a national identification card.

We then nail these people

a)when they show up for free medical care (their slave labor employers like Walmart, McDonald's etc. don't give them medical benefits),

b) Social services like unemepolyment

c) At job application sites (get employers cooperation by putting out of business companies which knowlingly employ these invaders and seize their assets to pay for the cost of handling this catastrophe.)

d) When they are arrested for a crime or stopped for a routine road check

etc. etc.

For the President of the United States to state that he can't enforce the law of the land he was elected to uphold is really grounds for removal from office. But that isn't possible nor desirable at this stage.

Pressure on Coongressmen WILL work - it worked with Dubai and with Miers and we had better start putting their feet to the fire now.

As for the BOGUS "guest worker program", Bush should be told to take a hike by Congress. Maybe he and his buddy Kennedy can go off together somewhere and leave serious government to intelligent people.

If we need more workers, we shoud raise the immigration quotas across the board and not set up a secind class citizenship program which benefits one country only - Mexico - the nation which created this mess in the first place.

[brytlea]

LOL having spent alot of my growing up in the southwest, I do understand quite a bit of Spanish (actually probably Spanglish, truth be known). I once surprised the heck out of a group of Spanish speaking girls in one of my classes when they started using foul Spanish words. I told them, "I won't tolerate THAT in my classroom." They were floored that an old white lady like me knew those words!
:)
susie

[auggy]

It's all about getting the vote and.........lowering the wages in this country, so that we are more competitive globally.

[meema]

It became national and involved the president when he chose to join in. His "jobs Americans won't do" is insulting to those of us who have done those jobs. When he says "A leader leads" I want to scream "Please Mr. President, look behind you, because the only ones following you are the enemy".

I've gotten to the point where I have to leave the room because I can no longer listen to him say these things.

Me too, McGavin!

Very well said! I agree with your whole post.

[null and void]

Being poor and jobless in America is better than being poor and jobless in Mexico.

Hell's bells, being poor and jobless in America is better than being rich in most of the world.

[bordergal]

Cutting and running in the face of the corrupt socialist nation to the south and it's attempts to retake US territory.

Good strategy.

[Let's Roll]

No, just tired of excuses.

[Miss Marple]

You are possibly right, but people who have come here from Mexico with it's draconian laws don't know it.

[Sweetjustusnow]

Maybe I can help you connect the dots...

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf

The Task Force offers a detailed and ambitious set of proposals that
build on the recommendations adopted by the three governments at
the Texas summit of March 2005. The Task Force’s central recommendation
is establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and
security community, the boundaries of which would be defined by a
common external tariff and AN OUTER SECURITY PERIMETER.

To create a North American economic space that provides new
opportunities for individuals in all three countries, the Task Force makes
the following recommendations aimed at establishing a seamless North
American market, adopting a North American approach to regulation,
INCREASING LABOR MOBILITY, and enhancing support for North American
education programs.

Canada and the United States should consider ELIMINATING RESTRICTIONS ON LABOR MOBILITY ALTOGETHER and work toward solutions that, in the
long run, could enable the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico
as well.

This is just a little slice of what you need to know. Now go forth and do your homework.