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1 posted on 05/13/2006 2:14:28 PM PDT by bnelson44
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Amendment is here:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.1986
2 posted on 05/13/2006 2:14:56 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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That should get the Republicans through the election hump, then they can keep drag assing and doing their normal BS.
3 posted on 05/13/2006 2:18:41 PM PDT by Herakles (Liberals are stone stupid and proud of it!)
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If the President and the Senate are going to be playing these games the Republican party is going to be on the outside looking in for a very long time.

I won't stand for this kind of treachery. I just hope the rest of the conservatives don't get suckered by it.
4 posted on 05/13/2006 2:33:58 PM PDT by puppypusher
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So they're going to turn the NG into 'observers'. How sweet.

L

6 posted on 05/13/2006 2:36:03 PM PDT by Lurker (50% of the country is not fit to run a convenience store.)
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What for? To take names and make plaster casts of thousands of footprints headed in the wrong direction? What a joke!


7 posted on 05/13/2006 2:36:51 PM PDT by Migraine (...diversity is great (until it happens to you)...)
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Are they going to wear Blue UN helmets too?


8 posted on 05/13/2006 2:37:21 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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Not inspiring if true - Hardly a solution for a massive long-term problem, and much more like window dressing.


10 posted on 05/13/2006 2:38:15 PM PDT by RodgerD
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the troops have no arrest or detention powers

THEY WOULD ONLY BE STATIONED AT THE BORDER FOR ONE YEAR.



This being said, no one really knows what the President is going to say Monday night. It is all I can do to try and keep my powder dry this weekend and at least give the man a chance. Although I feel as if I am "giving him enough rope." Oh well, maybe he will reverse course.


13 posted on 05/13/2006 2:44:29 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Appeasable Border Hawk)
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bttt


14 posted on 05/13/2006 2:50:35 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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Everyone that's shocked raise your hand. Politicians are the enemy of America.


15 posted on 05/13/2006 2:51:50 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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Not surprising at all. It agrees with the The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878

"From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section And any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment."

10 U.S.C. (United States Code) 375

Sec. 375. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel:

"The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to ensure that any activity (including the provision of any equipment or facility or the assignment or detail of any personnel) under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law."

In a nutshell, this act bans the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines from participating in arrests, searches, seizure of evidence and other police-type activity on U.S. soil. The Coast Guard and National Guard troops under the control of state governors are excluded from the act.

17 posted on 05/13/2006 2:53:38 PM PDT by kabar
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Letz see now. They do have the right to defend themselves, I guess. They could also be used to build a fence. Concertina wire or razor wire could be used to build a fence from the Pacific to the Gulf. Letz get innovative. Put their artillery impact areas down on the border. How about a new bombing range that Puerto Rico shut down on us. Rifle ranges could be set up there. Some areas near the border would make a good desert training area. Letz make it dangerous for these coyotes to operate there.


18 posted on 05/13/2006 2:58:50 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire.)
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They can put all the guards they want on the border that they want but they still need detention facilities and the will to use them. They are sorely lacking the will to detain and deport.


20 posted on 05/13/2006 3:01:20 PM PDT by Birdwatcher
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I did not even have to read this to know it was a scam to quiet down the base. The truth of the matter is that the leaders of this country will stop at nothing to keep the borders open and to give illegal aliens amnesty. If they be Republican or Democrat...It makes no difference. They are playing chicken with the American people and they believe that they are going to win. After all- they always do. We are too spineless to vote them all out and replace them with good people who put American interest first. In this day and age that would have to be people who would be labeled kooky and radical by the mainstream media. They would also be people who were not greedy enough in life to aquire the money and resources to be known well enough to ever get elected. So the decline goes on.


21 posted on 05/13/2006 3:02:45 PM PDT by Revel
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the troops have no arrest or detention powers

It's because they are militry ..

25 posted on 05/13/2006 3:06:13 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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Was afraid of this yesterday when I first read of the plan.


33 posted on 05/13/2006 3:20:12 PM PDT by TheLion
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None of the President's several actions against illegal immigration will please people who only react emotionally and subjectively to one issue.

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :

  Hysteria \Hys*te"ri*a\, n. [NL.: cf. F. hyst['e]rie. See
     Hysteric.] (Med.)
     A nervous affection, occurring almost exclusively in women,
     in which the emotional and reflex excitability is
     exaggerated, and the will power correspondingly diminished,
     so that the patient loses control over the emotions, becomes
     the victim of imaginary sensations, and often falls into
     paroxism or fits.
     [1913 Webster]
  
     Note: The chief symptoms are convulsive, tossing movements of
           the limbs and head, uncontrollable crying and laughing,
           and a choking sensation as if a ball were lodged in the
           throat. The affection presents the most varied
           symptoms, often simulating those of the gravest
           diseases, but generally curable by mental treatment
           alone. Hysteric


35 posted on 05/13/2006 3:24:01 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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Reading this, it would almost seem as though if another country is invading, we wouldn't have the authority to protect our own borders after one year. Well, in fact, that's exactly what's happening. We're being invaded by our neighbor to the south. Such a set of rules is ludicrous--and dangerous.

Actually, I suspect there is a way around these limitations. Let's hope they find it, and implement it.


36 posted on 05/13/2006 3:24:30 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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Even the Patriot Act isn't permanent.


37 posted on 05/13/2006 3:26:36 PM PDT by Raycpa
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Here is what Arnold thinks(From the Drudge Report):

"SCHWARZENEGGER SAYS NATIONAL GUARD ON BORDER 'NOT RIGHT WAY TO GO'
Fri May 12 2006 20:38:01 ET

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has come out against putting National Guard troops on the border, as President Bush will suggest on Monday night in a nationally televised speech.

"There is all kinds of talk about now that should we use the National Guard," Schwarzenegger explains. "I think that the key thing is that we secure our borders. Going the direction of the National Guard, I think is maybe not the right way to go because I think that the Bush administration and the federal government should put up the money to create the kind of protection that the federal government is responsible to provide."

"Not to use our National Guard, soldiers that are coming back from Iraq, for instance, and that have spent a year and a half over there and now they are coming back. I think that we should let them go to work, back to work again."

Developing..."


39 posted on 05/13/2006 3:30:50 PM PDT by Revel
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