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Bush Losing the Immigration Debate
War to Mobilize Democracy, LLC ^ | May 13, 2006 | Andrew L. Jaffee

Posted on 05/13/2006 12:56:02 PM PDT by forty_years

President Bush plans to address the nation on Monday night at 8 PM to con the American public into buying into his ludicrous immigration policies. His approval ratings are at an all-time low, with only 31% of Americans approving of his job performance, while "68% believe the United States is worse off today than it was before Mr. Bush became president." Bush's immigration policies would open the floodgates to illegals, and Americans do not approve -- and it looks like the Senate agrees. Another poll shows support for the House's tough and very sensible immigration legislation, HR 4437:

...69 percent said it was a good or very good idea when told it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement while not increasing legal immigration; 27 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

In an attempt to assuage American concerns about the unfettered illegal immigration tidal wave, Bush has proposed using the National Guard to patrol our borders:

President Bush, trying to build momentum for an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws, is considering plans to shore up the Mexican border with National Guard troops paid for by the federal government, according to senior administration officials.

One defense official said military leaders believe the number of troops required could range from 3,500 to 10,000, depending on the final plan.

That's a great idea, except that Bush wants to provide amnesty to the millions of illegals already present in the U.S., and he wants to allow 400,000 "guest workers" to enter the U.S. every year. This is a recipe for disaster.

There are at least 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., and 10,000 pouring into our nation every day. One study predicts there will be 5 million more Latin American immigrants in the U.S. by 2015, while another prognosticates that illegals will push the American population to 1/2 billion people by 2050. Since the U.S. government is failing dismally at stemming this unfettered tidal wave, a group of concerned citizens, the Minuteman, has tried to prevent illegal immigration, but it appears that Bush has betrayed them.

And it looks like the Republican-controlled Senate is on the verge of betraying the American people by planning to push through legislation which will implement Bush's disastrous proposals. If the Republicans are looking to retain the Senate in the 2006 elections, they may just be shooting themselves in their collective feet.

The problem with Bush and many Republicans is that they are looking at immigration solely in 2 modalities: 1) trying to court the Latino vote, and 2) looking at immigration solely in near-term economic terms.

President Bush and Mexico's President Fox are colluding in an unholy alliance. Bush wants cheap Mexican labor -- forget the problems illegals pose to American society. Fox, an arrogant racist, wants to dump his economic problems on the U.S. instead of enacting much-needed reforms in his own corrupt society. It looks like Senate Republicans have joined the alliance.

It is time for the U.S. to criminalize illegal immigration as a felony offense. We need to build a wall along the Mexico border and provide enough personnel to patrol that border. We need to make it very painful for employers who hire illegals.

Are we to sit by idly while illegal immigrants openly march through our streets, trying to intimidate our policy makers, defame our flag, and rewrite our national anthem? Complacency will lead to the end of our prosperity and democracy.

Perhaps most importantly, it is time for the Third World to start dealing with its own problems (like corruption and overpopulation), and stop trying to dump those problems on the U.S.

Take action: Support LEGAL immigration.

http://netwmd.com/blog/2006/05/13/596


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To: Mojave; sine_nomine

Is sine nomine Alonzo Highsmith?


141 posted on 05/13/2006 6:40:58 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: sinkspur
"Through database work, Houston police want to stem the flow of an estimated 200,000 vehicles that vanish south of the border each year."

Sunk again.

142 posted on 05/13/2006 6:42:39 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: politicalwit

"GWB is no Texan."

Um, yeah, he is.


143 posted on 05/13/2006 6:43:27 PM PDT by zook
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To: Mojave

You didn't answer my question.


144 posted on 05/13/2006 6:45:47 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: zook
We don't talk behind people's backs around here.

You may not, I do when I feel like it. You already well know my opinion of you and positions. I'm tired of copying you in on posts where I agree with other people, or feel like warning them of the futility of taking a sensible approach, regarding your obtuse and poorly regarded opinions. I feel there is no reason to extend that courtesy any longer.

Besides, if you can't talk about someone behind their back, when can you talk about them?

145 posted on 05/13/2006 6:46:11 PM PDT by rock58seg (Twin problems, a tin ear and a tin drum, establishes myths such as "ROP" and "guest worker".)
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To: rock58seg

Well, then, by all means go ahead.


146 posted on 05/13/2006 6:47:11 PM PDT by zook
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To: sinkspur

Show me your facts to back that up.


147 posted on 05/13/2006 6:47:42 PM PDT by rock58seg (Twin problems, a tin ear and a tin drum, establishes myths such as "ROP" and "guest worker".)
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To: sinkspur
You didn't answer my question.

Sorry, I was busy exposing the absurdity of it.

"Through database work, Houston police want to stem the flow of an estimated 200,000 vehicles that vanish south of the border each year."

148 posted on 05/13/2006 6:49:16 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: calex59; sinkspur
"You are a known open borders advocate so what you say about this poll is useless because you will believe what you want."

In fairness..Sinkspur is not an open borders advocate.

IMHO..the fight here on FR half the time is against the insane rhetoric.

149 posted on 05/13/2006 6:49:46 PM PDT by Earthdweller (I can go to the ABC boards if I want to argue with Dems, third party trolls and other wacked folks.)
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To: rock58seg
Besides, if you can't talk about someone behind their back, when can you talk about them?

Decent human beings don't talk about people behind their backs.

If you don't ping people you are talking about, eventually you may find yourself with a blue screen.

150 posted on 05/13/2006 6:49:50 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: rock58seg
Show me your facts to back that up

Ping me if he does. I love novelty.

151 posted on 05/13/2006 6:50:28 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: rock58seg
Show me your facts to back that up.

To back what up?

152 posted on 05/13/2006 6:50:32 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: zook

Zook to you, I wish to apologize. I didn't realize it was your post. I thought I was replying to sinkspur only.

Zook I apologize.


153 posted on 05/13/2006 6:50:55 PM PDT by rock58seg (Twin problems, a tin ear and a tin drum, establishes myths such as "ROP" and "guest worker".)
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To: sinkspur
Give it up FRiend..go to the ABC Boards to fight these fools. At least that makes more sense then having to do it on a Republican forum.
154 posted on 05/13/2006 6:52:21 PM PDT by Earthdweller (I can go to the ABC boards if I want to argue with Dems, third party trolls and other wacked folks.)
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To: rock58seg

Not a prob.


155 posted on 05/13/2006 6:52:25 PM PDT by zook
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To: Mojave; sine_nomine
Sorry, I was busy exposing the absurdity of it.

I didn't see sine nomine's name in that article, unless he is Alonzo Highsmith.

156 posted on 05/13/2006 6:53:04 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: forty_years

3,500 - 10,000? That's it? Try 40-50,000 and how about just forming a section of the guard that is for domestic patrol only...maxing out at 10,000 per-state in the union. Meaning that 10,000 members of the National Guard can be recruited and brought in each state for domestic patrol...immigration control only. Not be sent overseas to fight in a foreign war. You would see local offices flooding with recruits immediately.

More Americans are concerned about the borders of Mexico and Canada and what is flooding into the country than what is flowing into an Arab country. Enough nation building for now...how about we build up our own...it IS OUR TAX DOLLARS.


157 posted on 05/13/2006 6:59:07 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

"As far as a Texan, Bush is no Sam Houston.

Bush is from Connecticut."

His dad was. He grew up in Texas.


158 posted on 05/13/2006 7:02:20 PM PDT by strategofr (FirstLady Hillary's Christmas tree-syringes, sex toy, erect penises, Hillary's Secret War,Poe, p.147)
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To: sinkspur
I didn't see sine nomine's name in that article

And I didn't see yours.

"Through database work, Houston police want to stem the flow of an estimated 200,000 vehicles that vanish south of the border each year."

159 posted on 05/13/2006 7:02:32 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: sinkspur
Decent human beings don't talk about people behind their backs

I didn't claim to be decent.
What I claim is:
# that I am Patriotic.
# That I am a Conservative.
#That I am against the Shamesty poicy of President Bush.
#That I am in favor of stricter Immigration enforcement.
#That I will never vote for John McCain.
#That President Bush Has plenty of time to get on the side of Conservatives and stop the GOP cliff jump that is presently in our future.
#That most of your positions are simply there for aguments sake, having little to do with reality.
#That the Natl Guard is only a bandaid. It is seen by most as only temporary, to get "us" through the election.
#That I wish to approach my attendance at the Texas Gop Convention, on an upbeat note, knowing my President has finally taken the correct stance on Illegal immigration.

I know you disagree with me on some of these items. Especially when I criticize President Bush. (I have given GWB eight votes) Given the same set of candidates, I would do so again. I find it painful however,that he has not taken an even mildly Conservative stance on the Illegal invasion of the USA.

To criticize is usually done more out of love than hate.

In your case it is neither love nor hate, I simply wish to ignore you.

160 posted on 05/13/2006 7:25:05 PM PDT by rock58seg (Twin problems, a tin ear and a tin drum, establishes myths such as "ROP" and "guest worker".)
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