Hydrogen is one of the most expensive ways of powering a car. See:
http://media.popularmechanics.com/documents/Fuel_of_the_Future-e852.pdf
Its hard to argue with the video...impressive.
Mythbusters tried it last week on their show, and busted it flat. You simply cant produce enough hydrogen on board a car, to power the car. Its easy to produce hydrogen, in miniscule amounts, but enough to power a car? Nope.
You can't create energy, and so the person who made the news story was blissfully unaware of the all consuming question that everyone would have... "where does the energy come from to 'crack' the water into H and O?"
The story would lead one to think that he's invented a way to use less energy seperating water into H and O, than is recovered when you burn the H and O back into water. Sounds like a perpetual motion machine to me.
The report conveniently omits to mention how much electricity is required for the electrolysis process. What we need to know is how many BTUs in (for electrolysis) vs. how many BTUs out (when the resulting HHO gas is burned). The former must at least equal the latter (else we would have a perpetual motion machine in violation of the laws of thermodynamics). What we will find is that HHO is not a fuel, but an energy storage medium. Therefore, it will not reduce demand for conventional fuels.
"Cap'n, Ah kinot git BLUUD from a RRRRRRock."
I would have liked to see him drink the water before he put into the tank...
Electrolysis of water uses a LOT of high grade expensive energy. The hydrogen is only a transport medium for a small portion of the energy consumed in its production.
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Allright, I think we have seen enough of this right now.
Every few months I post this advice to potential investors:
If you want to avoid the next Dot.Bomb.Bubble, when you hear these terms, run for your life:
1: Hydrogen "Energy"
2: MEMS
3: "Nano*"
I have worked in R&D all my life, much of it in these areas, including DoE hydrogen programs. (14 patents issued, World and EU crossfiles, and six published applications pending to date.)
Reminds me of that old joke about the two nuns, a bedpan, and their car by the side of the road.
I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY, that I'll sell you in exchange for the royalties off of this product.
Whaddya say??
Sheesh.
Even the Fox26 site looks suspicious.
BB62
Looks like it's gone beyond just being a theory and already has working models and test vehicles.
FYI
11-27-2005
Clearwater Man Puts Technology To Work
Tampa Bay Online ^ | 11/27/2005 | WILL RODGERS
Posted on 11/27/2005 9:53:37 AM EST by wjersey
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1529266/posts
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This 'inventor' is infringing on Yull Brown's U.S. Patent (U.S. Patent 4081656, 1978) for Brown's Gas. Hope he has a good lawyer.
18 posted on 11/27/2005 10:33:25 AM EST by AmericaUnited
Brown's patent can be found at http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=15&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=pall&s1=4081656&OS=4081656&RS=4081656
21 posted on 11/27/2005 10:38:10 AM EST by NewHampshireDuo
This is a good link for more info: http://www.phact.org/e/bgas.htm
Also at this one we see that guy has ripped off other's technology: http://www.watertorch.com/links/links1.html
32 posted on 11/27/2005 11:08:20 AM EST by AmericaUnited
How can two H and one O combine and NOT be water? Oxygen has two hooks, hydrogen has one hook. THere's only one configuration for them to hook up.
Under normal temperature/pressure conditions, gaseous hydrogen and Oxygen are both diatomic. That is, they exist in nature as stable molecules H2 and O2. These "stable" gases can coexist in proportions that would form water without actually doing so. It takes a "spark" of energy to blast at least a few molecules of hydrogen and oxygen out of their diatomic state, whereupon they'd be free to recombine as H2O, and releasing MORE energy than what was required as input in the original spark. This, of course, sets off a chain reaction throughout the mixture until all the hydrogen and oxygen are combined.
As near as I can figure, this Clearwater "genius" must be using some highly insulated, temperature/pressure controlled storage vessel to prevent the mixture from combusting. And may also be using weird temperature/pressure conditions to hold the H and O in their unstable monatomic states.
Pretty nifty engineering, if that's what he's doing. But I'd prefer viewing any demonstration from at least a mile away.
39 posted on 11/27/2005 11:52:16 AM EST by Willie Green
I encourage everyone who finds this report credible to invest heavily in it.
I won't be.
1) Used in a car the gas combusts and emits water vapor as the only effluent in its exhaust.It's also high protein feed for farm animals, a powerful explosive, insulation for low-income housing, and a top-notch engine coolant.
2) A solid-state refrigeration unit in which temperature could instantly be changed with no freon or other refrigeration chemicals.
3) A room heater fueled with the gas will carbonize a strip of paper held near it but not create flames or smoke.
4) Used in an acetylene torch it singed hairs from a welder's forearm but didn't burn the skin.
5) Flame from this gas can glaze concrete thus rendering it impervious to acids and other corrosives and greatly extending the concrete's useful lifespan.
6) The gas when burned does not explode but implodes. "An intriguing situation arises when a volume of Brown's Gas is detonated because the contraction in that volume which occurs is revolutionary in character. Of an order of 1,860:1, the contraction can be defined as an implosion, as opposed to an explosion." 1979
7) When heating water in an iron basin using a torch if applied only to the water barely raises its temperature even after long exposure. The flame applied to the bottom of the basin raises the temperature of the metal so high, and so instantly, that the water boils away almost in the blink of an eye. When directed at a brick under the surface of the water, however, the flame can heat the brick as easily as though the brick was not water covered.
8) Steel, after treatment with the flame, is much more impervious to rust and before treatment. 9) The flame can fuse plastic to titantium.
10) Directing the flame at Cobalt-60 radiation was reduced by 70% in the sample.
11) Directing the flame at Americium the radiation was reduced 100%.
Seems he rams tubing in the posteriors of each animal in his trailer, ties the tubing into a collector box and siphons the collected gas into the engine.
The livestock are fed high fiber feed prior to the trip and have CNN and the Highlights of Bill and Hillary's Excellent Adventure on flat screens in the trailer.
/ sarc
I've been talking about this for years. Thought it up after 8th grade science class in 1983