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1 posted on 05/12/2006 9:18:14 AM PDT by xjcsa
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This would be a good thing. Secure the border first.


176 posted on 05/12/2006 10:04:08 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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I hope this is true!! GW would see his ratings go through the roof!!


180 posted on 05/12/2006 10:04:53 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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Good grief people...first of all, the Governors could have activated the NG at any time, but didn't. No, they wait around for the FedGov to act, then feign relief like there was nothing they could have done without the FedGov. I call BS. Also, Bush has supported the fence idea for a year, but the Dems didn't like it:

May 2005 - The border fence provision is part of the REAL ID Act of 2005, which is attached to the House's emergency supplemental appropriations package to finance military spending in Iraq and Afghanistan.In a letter to Congress last week, the White House said, "The administration strongly urges [congressional] conferees to include the REAL ID Act of 2005 in the final version of the bill." The legislation also includes a ban on driver's licenses for illegal immigrants.

Democrats are bristling over the Bush endorsement, with Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid saying he was "disappointed."

"The fact of the matter is Republicans did this in a very tricky way," Reid Spokeswoman Fabiola Rodriguez-Ciampoli told The Associated Press. "They knew that if they included REAL ID in the [military spending bill], it would be very hard to strike it out."

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The fences were finally approved by Congress and work has begun, but many sections have been delayed by environmentalists:

A corrugated metal fence that separates the USA from Mexico starts near here at the Pacific Ocean and runs 14 miles inland. It's a stained and rusty reminder that San Diego was once the place along the U.S.-Mexico border most often crossed by illegal immigrants.

The government decided in 1996 to add two more fences with roads and stadium-style lights in between the rows to make it easier to stop anyone who tried to get across.

The project has progressed so roughly 10 miles of the multiple fences and roads are built. But work on the final 3 1/2 miles or so has hit a snag: Border security is in conflict with environmental concerns.

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Human Rights groups and local leaders also held it up,calling it "racist":

At the forum, The Organic Collective distributed a statement that reads, “The Triple Border Fence embodies the most racist and violent face of so called ‘Free Trade’ which allows capital to flow freely across borders, but not the people who create the capital.”

The space for increased human right abuses was another concern expressed by several panelists. “(The triple border fence) creates a space of impunity for the Border Patrol,” Christian Ramirez, Program Coordinator of the U.S./Mexico Border Program at The American Friends Service Committee, said. “(Within the border fences) there are no witnesses to human rights violations,” Ramirez added.

Likening the proposed project to a U.S. version of the Berlin Wall, Enrique Morones, founder of Border Angels and Chair of the Border Commission to Mexican President Vicente Fox, said, “This fence gives the wrong message and it is hypocritical. The U.S. tells Gorbachev to take down their wall, and here our President still has his.”

Besides environmental and human rights concerns, the triple fence is seen as an insult to our un-consulted Mexican neighbor and as a nemesis to cooperative border culture.

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There is even a picture of National Guardsmen building the fence you say is non-existent at that website.

Finally, if you don't have a clue what you are talking about, it is usually best to keep your mouth shut so you won't look like a fool. If you are on the internet, I assume you have access to Google...use it, inform yourselves.

183 posted on 05/12/2006 10:05:14 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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If true, this would suggest to me that Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist has been having discussions on this very subject with the President. On Wednesday night, Frist was live on Bill O'Reilly and O'Reilly was pushing the whole "send the National Guard to the border" idea, and Frist wasn't backing away from it, said it was "one of the options" that was being looked at, so again: the proof is in the boots on the ground, and there have to be absolutely clear rules of engagement as to how those troops are to deal with illegal border crossers, defending themselves from attackers, taking illegals into custody (presumably to turn over to local law enforcement?), and (*hopefully*) working hand in glove with the Minutemen down there who have been trying to do what our federal government (up until this point) has failed to do.


196 posted on 05/12/2006 10:09:54 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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As I recall, Arizona Governor Napolitano sent about ten National Guardsbeings down to help too. Until proven otherwise, I envision about the same level of committment from GWB.


201 posted on 05/12/2006 10:10:38 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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A good start--as long as they're actually given the power to STOP people from coming across. If they're just sitting there picking their noses, hamstrung by people up the ladder who won't allow them to enforce the law (as has been the case to date with the border patrol) then this is just more symbolic nothing.

No guest worker program until the government can PROVE they've got the border under control.
211 posted on 05/12/2006 10:13:17 AM PDT by Antoninus (I will not vote for a liberal, regardless of party.)
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AOL Poll:

Should the military be used to tighten the U.S.-Mexico border?

Yes 88% No 12%

218 posted on 05/12/2006 10:14:11 AM PDT by monkapotamus
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Need a wall also, like Israeli's...


225 posted on 05/12/2006 10:17:21 AM PDT by Cableguy
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Good. I hope they will be allowed to do their jobs.


244 posted on 05/12/2006 10:25:49 AM PDT by SerpentDove (We will not stand by and allow politicians to destroy our country through open borders.)
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Sounds good if it happens. Then there are many other steps that must be taken.


250 posted on 05/12/2006 10:29:20 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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Oh PLEASE let it be really true and not just pretty words to put us back to sleep.


267 posted on 05/12/2006 10:40:05 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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If TRUE.. I might stand down on some of my scourging of the Shrub..
Lets hope.. However I'm sceptical..
282 posted on 05/12/2006 10:52:28 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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Hopefully they'll give them live ammo.
300 posted on 05/12/2006 11:04:53 AM PDT by b4its2late (If it's treason, there's no doubt a democrat is standing behind it.)
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I'll believe it when I see it happening.


318 posted on 05/12/2006 11:22:09 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Fake but accurate.)
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I just wish he would have done this before his approval ratings went down the crapper.


322 posted on 05/12/2006 11:28:35 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (God makes us strong for alittle while so that we can protect the weak)
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Bookmarking for later.


326 posted on 05/12/2006 11:31:56 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Self Admitted BorderBot: Be Heard: Send a Brick: http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm)
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Bush deploying the National Guard is a classic Boob Bait for Bubba's stunt. Deploy a few troops temporarily with great fanfare, serving only to placate the gullible so as to get permanent amnesty for 12 million illegals.

Here's what he won't announce: Build wall. Enforce laws. No amnesty

328 posted on 05/12/2006 11:33:01 AM PDT by Plutarch
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Too Late for Me....I am a Minute Man supporter now. I want to see US protect the border, the gov-ment is not trustworthy.


333 posted on 05/12/2006 11:41:11 AM PDT by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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Mr President, Good news! However, please do not say: "Jobs Americans will not do". Big mistake.


343 posted on 05/12/2006 12:03:04 PM PDT by devane617 (The truth, not politics, is right for our beautiful America.)
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Bush! Welcome back to Conservatism! We've missed you!


356 posted on 05/12/2006 12:27:07 PM PDT by SelectiveJNJ
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