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Sources: Bush Plans National Guard on Border..
Drudge Report ^ | May 12, 2006 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 05/12/2006 9:18:12 AM PDT by xjcsa

Headline only so far...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderenforcement; borderlist; bordersecurity; bush; howlermonkeys; morebushbashing; nationalguard
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To: jonrick46
He is telling me that the same technology used in prison fences would be used. They are talking about a 16 foot steel fence pitched at an angle to make climbing impossible. On top would be razor wire. Built in would be motion sensors and beams. Other electronic security measures would also be used: infrared sensing cameras, drones with cameras, etc.

That sounds good. A fence. The MSM keep referring to a wall to make it sound worse. But in actuality of wall would be so much easier to get over than the fence you describe.
841 posted on 05/13/2006 4:13:16 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Nasher

"AOL Poll:"

I gave up on AOL two years ago. I kept it on the cheaper "bring your own access" plan, because I enjoyed the huge variety of message boards there, even though I had a superior ISP, for years prior. The place had always been more on the liberal side, but in the last couple of years, it was overwhelmed by organized leftist posters who were very aggressive. In light of this, I'd say that this AOL poll came out so lopsided indicates not just very upset and motivated conservative members, but also more than just a minor percentage of people I would identify as liberal who are equally bothered by the situation.


842 posted on 05/13/2006 4:28:58 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BykrBayb

Illegal allian and Mexican are interchangeable. I'm a racist so why should the term bother anyone else. It is just that this racism drips with hatred.

Half the people here would just as soon set up concentration camps and gas chambers as deport them where they will come back. That way you can be a true "Conservative" and not just a Rockefeller Republican.

Pray for W and Our Troops


843 posted on 05/13/2006 4:33:02 AM PDT by bray (The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press')
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To: Howlin

Yeah some civil debate. If you have been following I have asked where they are going to get the workers to replace them after they are all deported and yet to get a "civil" answer. Why, because they have no real answer only hatred for President Bush and Mexicans.

Pray for W and Our Troops


844 posted on 05/13/2006 4:35:24 AM PDT by bray (The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press')
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To: nmh

Yeah vilify the small businessmen who are the heart of our economy. Should you take their businesses away from them too or just throw them in jail and bankrupt them for hiring Mexicans? When did hard core Republicans become so much like Anti-business Rats? Should we have more gummit or just nationalize the farms?

Seems easier to build those concentration camps?

Pray for W nad Our Troops


845 posted on 05/13/2006 4:44:40 AM PDT by bray (The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press')
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To: Spiff

Here's your legacy Mr. Bush...congratulations!


846 posted on 05/13/2006 4:49:21 AM PDT by Verax
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To: Miss Marple

"WHY didn't NAFTA work? My surmise is that something in the Mexican economic/social/political system screwed it up."

My impression is that the so-called "great big sucking sound" was diverted to China when MFN status was bestowed upon them. And, this diversion in turn created a vacuum that sucked cheap, illegal labor into the United States from Mexico.

Gotta chase the absolute bottom dollar labor cost, no matter what. It's written in stone. /sarc


847 posted on 05/13/2006 4:59:07 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

How much diffeence did MFN make on the number of Chinese imports vs. Mexican imports? How many factories relocated to China from Mexico? I don't know the answers to this, but it would be interesting to find out.


848 posted on 05/13/2006 5:06:28 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Miss Marple

As far as a source for my impression, I can only offer anecdotal evidence from textile company owners that I have done business with. Efforts at setting up shop in Mexico didn't last long after Most Favored Nation status was granted to China. Other than that, I do recall hearing gripes about the "mañana, mañana" business ethic in Mexico.


849 posted on 05/13/2006 5:17:57 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: papertyger

"you really don't need to be offering opinions"

Excuse me???? and YOU're who????

The immigration problem hardly began May 1st when the anti-American crowds formed those protests.


850 posted on 05/13/2006 6:27:02 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: bray

"Nothing he does is right by them"

No kidding! Wait for the bash on Monday night!! We can find this kind of trash on DU!!


851 posted on 05/13/2006 6:29:19 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: Miss Marple

Employers can verify social security numbers.

http://www.ssa.gov/employer/ssnv.htm


852 posted on 05/13/2006 6:43:08 AM PDT by LisaAnne
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To: LisaAnne
From your link:

While the service is available to all employers and third-party submitters, it can only be used to verify current or former employees and only for wage reporting (Form W-2) purposes.

853 posted on 05/13/2006 6:49:14 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: navyguy
I'm all done with you.

I'm sure. It's gotta suck being called out and publicly embarassed.

854 posted on 05/13/2006 6:53:09 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: teawithmisswilliams
You may treat it as a joke, but many of us are convinced that we are in serious danger of losing our country if illegal immigration is not stopped--and soon. A conservative ought to be able to comprehend that.

Conservatives should also be able to comprehend the difference between viewing a problem as serious and viewing the hysterical goons railing incoherently about said problem as a joke.

855 posted on 05/13/2006 6:54:48 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: LK44-40
I rely on direct observation and common sense analysis. These things tell me that illegals are costing us a ton.

Based on US Census data, the foreign born population in North Carolina went from 115,380 in 1990 to 436,513 in 2000. The number of Mexican born residents went from 8,751 in 1990 to 179,236 in 2000. Something is indeed happening and these numbers are understated if anything given the difficulties the Census Bureau has in recording the presence of illegal aliens.

856 posted on 05/13/2006 6:55:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Phsstpok

[Take the captured illegals, and sentence THEM to build the fence!...]

Hmmm.


857 posted on 05/13/2006 7:03:46 AM PDT by ohhhh (...every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Efforts at setting up shop in Mexico didn't last long after Most Favored Nation status was granted to China. Other than that, I do recall hearing gripes about the "mañana, mañana" business ethic in Mexico.

MFN status was granted to the PRC in 1979 and was renewed every year until 2000 when the PRC entered the WTO, which obviated the requirement to grant MFN.

858 posted on 05/13/2006 7:06:57 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Miss Marple

Sorry, I'm way behind on this thread. Hope your question was answered.


859 posted on 05/13/2006 7:08:39 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: kabar; Miss Marple

You're correct, I conflated the two, three letter acronyms. Mexico lost out to China following that country's entrance into the World Trade Organization or WTO in 2000. Most Favored Nation status, or MFN, was no longer applicable.


860 posted on 05/13/2006 7:38:51 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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