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Noonan: Baseless Confidence. It may take a defeat in Nov for the GOP to unlearn the lessons of power
WSJ Opinion Journal ^ | May 11, 2006 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 05/11/2006 12:31:45 AM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: Howlin

If only we could post your "2007 They're Just Like Republicans Congressional Delegation" on billboards all over the country.


101 posted on 05/11/2006 5:35:30 AM PDT by willk
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To: cbkaty
OK...that may be a stretch, but we can force our reps to the table. I live in a border state and this issue is HUGE.... Tell me why Bush will not address this issue immediately?

He tried, and got shot at from left and right at the same time.

The present situation is apparently unacceptable, unless someone actually proposes to change it, whereupon any change is unacceptable.

And if your idea of "forcing your reps to the table" is throwing them out, you will get a full-blown amnesty with immediate citizenship grants as a bonus in 2007. If that is what you want, then knock yourself out.

102 posted on 05/11/2006 5:35:48 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: RHINO369

We haven't been hitting well lately, but we've been able to eke out some wins. This cannot be sustained, so what we have to do is lose on purpose so that we can really start hitting...

No, that doesn't make sense either.


103 posted on 05/11/2006 5:38:01 AM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: FairOpinion

Another one of those "I'm the smartest one in the room" jerks. The true rinos are those who suggest Republicans ought to lose elections.


104 posted on 05/11/2006 5:38:55 AM PDT by zook
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To: Howlin

Well, that was sobering.

Oh, and, uh, you ruined my day.


105 posted on 05/11/2006 5:39:53 AM PDT by John Robertson (Even if we disagree now, we may agree later. Or vice versa.)
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To: Rokke
Peggy is a bitter old coot who can't get over the fact that she is no longer employed to write presidential speeches. Now she just bitches. She has become predictable and boring. On the bright side (for her), her plunge into irrelevancy makes her a prime candidate to host a news show on MSNBC. If I were an agent, I'd be all over that one.

I congratulate you on this post for addressing the issues she presented and not even beginning to make any hint of ad hominem attacks.

One can tell by this mature and topic-oriented post that you are a thoughtful and fact oriented person capable of careful analysis and never prone to making baseless, personal attacks.

106 posted on 05/11/2006 5:39:54 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (No one cares if the muzzies are free. It really is about their oil.)
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To: BW2221
They would be relieved and delighted if Congress finally took responsibility for the nation's borders. They won't be impressed if you just pass bills and call it progress.

Right you are, Peggy! They're not enforcing the current laws, so why would we think they'd enforce any new ones. Plus, i don't like any of the ideas they're considering wrt Illegals anyway.

107 posted on 05/11/2006 5:46:13 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: cbkaty
I live in a border state and this issue is HUGE.... Tell me why Bush will not address this issue immediately?

Well, as long as the border states keep electing Feinsteins and Boxers and even McCains, we can only conclude that the issue isn't all that important to them.

108 posted on 05/11/2006 5:47:23 AM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: FairOpinion

Peggy has lost her MoJo. Sad to see someone who had such a talent with words to come to this in a bid for attention (and gainful employment). Just another useful tool for the msm. If she truly believes Republicans will turn the country over to the worst set of democrats in our history, then she is further out of touch with reality than previously supposed.


109 posted on 05/11/2006 6:02:02 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: malia

The republican party is a complete disappointment, HOWEVER the democrats are disgraceful. Republicans may only rate a 2 but dems are way below zero. I don't really believe they can ever regain power with this bunch in charge.
God helps us if they do!!
BTW--when I speak of disappointment in republicans I mean the congress, unlike them, I remain completely loyal to this President Bush.


110 posted on 05/11/2006 6:07:33 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: Rokke
Can you name one thing that Noonan states in her first paragraph that is not true?

Nope, didn't think so.

111 posted on 05/11/2006 6:19:24 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: AmishDude
Well, as long as the border states keep electing Feinsteins and Boxers and even McCains, we can only conclude that the issue isn't all that important to them.

I am in Texas....thank you very much...

112 posted on 05/11/2006 6:33:47 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
He tried, and got shot at from left and right at the same time.

He got shot at and gave up because of weakness....and apparently a need to be a centrist.

113 posted on 05/11/2006 6:35:53 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: FairOpinion

It is very difficult for a real Republican to defeat a *** incumbent *** RINO in a primary, so the only way to get a change is to vote for a Rat, and then give all out support to the true conservative candidate in the next primary (if the country survives long enough for there to be one).


114 posted on 05/11/2006 6:40:57 AM PDT by S.O.L.
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To: AmishDude
Most of us wonder why voters keep voting for old Ted Kennedy......

Answer: Their alternative is worse.

Could we, as conservatives, be headed for the same fate (think: The movie Groundhog Day)?

115 posted on 05/11/2006 6:41:09 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: FairOpinion

Sorry to say, I think we need a sitting General/Admiral to be elected to the Presidency.

I SO sick of all those Godless, greedy, Ivy League lawyers running this country into the ground.


116 posted on 05/11/2006 6:44:31 AM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: FairOpinion

A bad bill is worse than no bill at all. The border problem is not a one step solution. We have to address the labor issue as well as the crossing issue. This is a winner if done right.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


117 posted on 05/11/2006 6:47:12 AM PDT by bray (The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press')
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To: FairOpinion
I am deeply disappointed in Peggy having joined the "cut off your nose to spite your face crowd".

You think that maybe, just maybe, the Bush apologists might wake up one day and friggin' realize that there is a serious problem in the GOP.

Naaah, just blame the critics. Just as Papa Bush's loss in 1992 was the fault of Ross Perot, not the fault of Bush breaking campaign promises.

118 posted on 05/11/2006 6:49:38 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: FairOpinion
She completely nails it on the last line:

"One gets the impression party leaders, deep in their hearts, believe the base is . . . base. Unsophisticated. Primitive. Obsessed with its little issues. They're trying to educate the base. But if history is a guide, the base is about to teach them a lesson instead."

I'm actually looking forward to teaching these RINO schlubs a lesson. Unfortunately, it's got to get worse before it gets better.
119 posted on 05/11/2006 6:53:35 AM PDT by beeler ("When you’re running down my country, Hoss you’re walking on the fighting side of me.")
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To: FairOpinion

My reaction to the truth in Peggy Noonan's letter was anger at the Republican Party for letting those of us that voted them in power, down. I know the Republican Party stands for much, much better than they are currently performing. I just hope they can pull a rabbit out of the hat by election time.


120 posted on 05/11/2006 6:57:23 AM PDT by marvlus
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