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Hard Core Republicans Are Fleeing President
The Washington Post ^ | May 11, 2006 | JIm VandeHei and Peter Baker

Posted on 05/10/2006 7:15:13 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers

Disaffection over spending and immigration have caused conservatives to take flight from President Bush and the Republican Congress at a rapid pace in recent weeks, sending Bush's approval ratings to record lows and presenting a new threat to the GOP's 12-year reign on Capitol Hill, according to White House officials, lawmakers and new polling data.

Bush and Congress have suffered a decline in support from almost every part of the conservative coalition over the past year, a trend that has accelerated with alarming implications for Bush's governing strategy.

The Gallup polling organization recorded a 13-percentage-point drop in Republican support for Bush in the past couple weeks. These usually reliable voters are telling pollsters and lawmakers they are fed up with what they see as out-of-control spending by Washington and an abandonment of core conservative principles more generally.

There are also significant pockets of conservatives turning on Bush and Congress over the their failure to tighten immigration laws, restrict gay marriage and to put an end to the Iraq war and the rash of political scandals, according to lawmakers and pollsters.

Bush won two presidential elections by pursuing a political and governing model that was predicated on winning and sustaining the loyal backing of social, economic and foreign policy conservatives. The strategy was based on the belief that conservatives, who are often more politically active than the general public, could be inspired to vote in larger numbers and would serve as a reliable foundation for his presidency. The theory, as explained by Bush strategists, is that the president would enjoy a floor below which his support would never fall.

It is now apparent that this floor has weakened dramatically and collapsed in places.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adolescents; borderlist; bush; bushbots; conservatives; gopcheerleader; sickofrinos; wetoleratenodissent
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To: MJY1288

Missed your post. Yes, he let me down.


641 posted on 05/10/2006 10:19:52 PM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: ohioWfan

Exactly. I think Frist has a better chance of working this along with Sessions, Kyl, etc.
If it doesn't pass with some of the dems getting on board, there will be at least a record of where all stands and for the record, the hijackers will have lost an issue with more republicans for the fence.


642 posted on 05/10/2006 10:19:56 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Hey Congress - We need the BORDER FENCE NOW)
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To: nunya bidness
Sounds like the White House is getting proactive.

I have that suspicion too - Rove gets released form other duties so's he can go back to doing what he does best...and bam! We get Tony Snow, the leadership change for CIA (I think there are some very nervous agents now) etc - I think the next few months are going to be interesting. (Now if only Karen Hughes would come back :o))

643 posted on 05/10/2006 10:20:13 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Howlin
I hope not a mexican gull. GWB: "hey, the borders are open, come on in. we'll make ya'll Texan's, real quick." Gee, butcher's, earlier, 1995, earned some $19/hr., now they are being paid $10/hr. No probelemo. Those are jobs that Americans will not do. Dry wall, what a horrible job. Americans simply will not do this work. But, the mexicans will. Welding work, Americans will not do this work, they just won't. Roofing, who on earth would do this work? Uhhmm, maybe the mexicans, no one else will. Let's raise the minimum wage, because it is simply not keeping up w/ the cost of living. Why are so many people finding it difficult to find reasonably paying jobs? Does that have anything at all to do w/ illegals driving down wages? Do you think? Nah, couldn't be an issue. GWB has it all under control. He's killing us, here and in Iraq. Some 33% of those in Cali prisons are illegals, not for immigration violations, but crimes. This is ok w/ GWB?

I've had enough. There will be an alternative, don't know what it is yet, but it's going to emerge. You simply can't have this level of failure, without an alternative emerging. It's impossible, I think.....
644 posted on 05/10/2006 10:20:52 PM PDT by daguberment (Celine Dion: 'Let them touch those things for once!!!')
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To: ohioWfan
And I know that this forum has been infiltrated by DU trolls feigning the anger of conservatives.

I could make an even better case that the joint is "infiltrated" by liberals masquerading as hardcore Bush supporters, 'Bushbots', if you will; who are only here for one reason: to create hatred and division in the GOP, and political damage for the President, by constantly attacking good conservative folks who are only standing for their principles.

It's worse now than ever. Shoot, last night they were using slime from the communists at the "Southern Poverty Law Center" to slime Chris Simcox.

There are lots of people like me, who have worked diligently in the Republican trenches for the last decade, who can hardly post here anymore without being viciously attacked.

I think you have blinders on, friend.

645 posted on 05/10/2006 10:21:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: Dolphy
Exactly. And they would know that it's BUSH supporters who shove up their sleeves and work.

At this point they are driving us away in droves...............those of us who agree with them, but can't tolerate their disrespect for our Commander in Chief, and honorable President.

The DU trolls are ruling the roost on this issue. It's time to take it BACK from them.

646 posted on 05/10/2006 10:21:55 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: AmeriBrit

Are you saying that about 60% of the site according to the last poll are "DU trolls"?


647 posted on 05/10/2006 10:22:09 PM PDT by Politicalmom (If fences don't work, why is there a fence around the White House?)
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To: EternalVigilance
I could make an even better case that the joint is "infiltrated" by liberals masquerading as hardcore Bush supporters, 'Bushbots', if you will; who are only here for one reason: to create hatred and division in the GOP, and political damage for the President, by constantly attacking good conservative folks who are only standing for their principles.

Frankly, that makes a whole lot more sense than these other "sleeper" conspiracy theories that are being bandied about.

648 posted on 05/10/2006 10:23:29 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: CedarDave
Thank you for your support. I'm frustrated and P/O with the congress and the President for not providing the leadership many of us believe is needed in this area. But we aren't going to sit on our hands or push the "D" or "L" lever in the voting booth this fall. Those who think we will are badly mistaken.

I could not agree more!

Because of the way the republicans in congress, have acted these last 5 years, it is going to be hard to give them the undieing loyalty they would have earned, had they just had a spine!

That being said, some here, including myself, are going to make them regret the decisions they made for cozying up to the dems for votes.

There is still a little time for them to rectify some of the damage they have caused, but I wont hold my breath.

649 posted on 05/10/2006 10:23:34 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (THE MUSIC CANTEEN ROCKS MY WEEKENDS!)
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To: mystery-ak; Southack

Post #88. What you & Southack said.

BTTT


650 posted on 05/10/2006 10:23:51 PM PDT by GopherIt
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To: EternalVigilance
It's worse now than ever. Shoot, last night they were using slime from the communists at the "Southern Poverty Law Center" to slime Chris Simcox.

You can't slime slime.

651 posted on 05/10/2006 10:24:20 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
You can't slime slime.

You must be clean as a whistle, then.

652 posted on 05/10/2006 10:24:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: onyx

"EV "said" he turned down ROVE'S offer"




ROTFLMAOPIMPWTIME!

and you owe me a keyboard.


653 posted on 05/10/2006 10:24:53 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: EternalVigilance
You think that, but you are dead wrong, EV.

Why troll the place as a Bush supporter? That doesn't make sense at any level.

Look at the first twenty or thirty posts of EVERY thread. It is overrun by Bush haters.

The blinders are on YOU, my friend. The Dems want victory in November, and they are using this issue and the emotion of it, both the media, and the trolls here........to split us apart.

654 posted on 05/10/2006 10:24:57 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine
So, if we sit this one out or vote 3rd party and lose the house or senate, I am OK with that. We may get real conservatives the next cycle.

Sinkspur, you may put me on your list.

There's THE list, and the other list.

Anybody who wants on THE list doesn't get on THE list.

So you qualify for the other list.

THE list is for people who actively support Democrats.

The other list is for lazy dumbasses who vote 3rd party or don't vote so they can teach the GOP a lesson.

I'm afraid you're going to be on the other list for a very long time.

655 posted on 05/10/2006 10:25:12 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: maine-iac7
(Now if only Karen Hughes would come back :o))

I suspect she will just like the last election. And in the interest of full disclosure I didn't vote for Bush in 2000 but I did in 2004 for two reasons: Judges and the War on Teror.

It's been noted publically that Rove is participating in the Maryland Senate campaign with Michael Steele and that Steele has not distanced himself from Bush is telling. Indeed, Hillary's embrace of Bush supports the notion that if a candidate wants to win they have to express some proximity to the President.

How this fits in to the immigration debate is questionable but there it is.

656 posted on 05/10/2006 10:25:29 PM PDT by nunya bidness (“Unsung, the noblest deed will die.” - Pindar)
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To: Junior_G

It makes no sense at all, on any level of rational thought.


657 posted on 05/10/2006 10:25:35 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: ohioWfan
Can't we stop this nonsense, and get to work?

I'm ready. Tell you what. You get Jorge Bush to change his tune: support a fence, support ending social services for illegals, stop supporting a guest worker program, and...

I will stop bashing him for betraying me.

BTW, the conservative base is not fractured because some of us have become "Bush Bashers". It has been fractured by bush himself. The logic is simple, he is the only one with the power to have done it.

658 posted on 05/10/2006 10:27:09 PM PDT by 2ndreconmarine
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To: SoCalPol
Frist has a MUCH better chance.

He's on the right track...........he just needs a little push from us. :)

Gotta get to bed. Good night! Carry on...........and thanks again!

659 posted on 05/10/2006 10:27:23 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: EternalVigilance
There are lots of people like me, who have worked diligently in the Republican trenches for the last decade, who can hardly post here anymore without being viciously attacked.

You're the Kettle and the Pot.

660 posted on 05/10/2006 10:28:53 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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