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Hard Core Republicans Are Fleeing President
The Washington Post ^ | May 11, 2006 | JIm VandeHei and Peter Baker

Posted on 05/10/2006 7:15:13 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers

Disaffection over spending and immigration have caused conservatives to take flight from President Bush and the Republican Congress at a rapid pace in recent weeks, sending Bush's approval ratings to record lows and presenting a new threat to the GOP's 12-year reign on Capitol Hill, according to White House officials, lawmakers and new polling data.

Bush and Congress have suffered a decline in support from almost every part of the conservative coalition over the past year, a trend that has accelerated with alarming implications for Bush's governing strategy.

The Gallup polling organization recorded a 13-percentage-point drop in Republican support for Bush in the past couple weeks. These usually reliable voters are telling pollsters and lawmakers they are fed up with what they see as out-of-control spending by Washington and an abandonment of core conservative principles more generally.

There are also significant pockets of conservatives turning on Bush and Congress over the their failure to tighten immigration laws, restrict gay marriage and to put an end to the Iraq war and the rash of political scandals, according to lawmakers and pollsters.

Bush won two presidential elections by pursuing a political and governing model that was predicated on winning and sustaining the loyal backing of social, economic and foreign policy conservatives. The strategy was based on the belief that conservatives, who are often more politically active than the general public, could be inspired to vote in larger numbers and would serve as a reliable foundation for his presidency. The theory, as explained by Bush strategists, is that the president would enjoy a floor below which his support would never fall.

It is now apparent that this floor has weakened dramatically and collapsed in places.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adolescents; borderlist; bush; bushbots; conservatives; gopcheerleader; sickofrinos; wetoleratenodissent
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To: Peach
Those mods have been VERY busy lately. We have lots of new sign ups and names we've never seen before.

We could make a fortune here selling laxatives.

I've never seen so many FOS people.

341 posted on 05/10/2006 8:37:31 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: steel_resolve; Howlin
If you can't argue without insults and capping your replies, why don't you get the hell off the site?

Another 10/2004 sign-up.

Why is it that the vast majority of you people who signed up just prior to the 2004 election talk like DU plants?

342 posted on 05/10/2006 8:38:03 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: maine-iac7

We will start suspending anybody and everybody who addresses Illegal Immigration where it is irrelevant. Keep On Topic!

that was posted by Admin Moderator April 25...

Admin Mod - Where are you :o(

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Excuse me. Quoting the first 11 words of the first article:

"Disaffection over spending and immigration have caused conservatives to take flight ..."

Stand your ground. Why do you want our borders to remain unprotected?

If you don't want that - why are you enabling that?


343 posted on 05/10/2006 8:38:22 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: sinkspur

As in all important issues, the President's most important role is one of advocacy. The President uses his influence and political capital to get what he wants from Congress, as he tried to do with Social Security reform and is trying to do with immigration reform. He has done nothing in his second term with the issue of homosexual marriage. We assume that the judges he has appointed (most of them, anyway) will vote against the erasing of Defense of MArriage Acts across the country, but we can't be sure. And as far as passing a constitutional amendment, nothing productive has been done on that score. It is a useful issue to most Washignton Republicans, nothing more.


344 posted on 05/10/2006 8:38:27 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: onyx

Isn't that the truth.


345 posted on 05/10/2006 8:38:40 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
There are a few brave voices in the wilderness. Just as there was one night long ago, when Paul Revere rode to warn his ... fellow Americans ... about an approaching danger.

One if by land, two if by sea, three if by CNN?

346 posted on 05/10/2006 8:38:52 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: steel_resolve

I did read the post, idiot. It's not my fault you can't make yourself clear. Try thinking before typing.


347 posted on 05/10/2006 8:39:03 PM PDT by ilovew (Democrat enablers are not conservatives.)
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To: ilovew
If it is an important issue, and it certainly should be to someone of your age, may I suggest that you make your views known, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS to your congressional representative?

The Republicans fumbled this issue....very badly. My understanding is that the net present value of the unfunded liability exceeds the net worth of the country. Stated differently, if the federal government confiscated 100% of the private property in the US, there still would not be enough money availble to make the Socialist Insecurity fund actuarially sound. That should scare the be-jeezus out of you. I know it scares the be-jeezus out of me. I know that when I reach retirement age, there are but two choices: Either my kids will be taxed into oblivion to fund my SS benefits, or I will have no benefits from a system that I contributed to my entire life. Rock, meet hard place. That the Republicans fumbled this issue is unexcusable.

I'm doing my best to save for my own retirement, because I believe the system will be non-existent in 20 years. You would be wise, very wise, to start investing NOW for your retirement, even if the government doesn't officially sanction it. Open a Roth IRA. It's the best investment you could make....and time is your best ally.
348 posted on 05/10/2006 8:39:42 PM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: Zack Nguyen
He has done nothing in his second term with the issue of homosexual marriage

Is he engaged? Someone had better tell Laura.

349 posted on 05/10/2006 8:39:42 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Peach

Some on FR that say they'd vote for a DUmocrat should read up on history a bit:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/1499184/posts

It's difficult to find a candidate that would agree 100% with a RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST like myself, but I'll work within the GOP to find the candidate that's best for the country.

Hell will freeze over before I pull a lever for a Dem....unless it's attached to gallows.


350 posted on 05/10/2006 8:39:54 PM PDT by RasterMaster (NO MORE "BIG TENTS" - ALL YOU GET ARE CLOWNS AND CIRCUS FREAKS!)
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To: Peach

OK...SO WHAT IS YOUR ANSWER TO ALL THE PROBLEMS! VOTE FOR NANCY (BUG EYES) PALOSI? HOW ABOUT THE SENATE LED BY HARRY REED? GET REAL FOLKS. I'M NOT HAPPY ETHER, BUT WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE? STAYING HOME! THAT'S HOW CLINTON GOT ELECTED...PISSED OFF, SPOILED REPUBLICANS. YOU CAN'T HAVE EVERTHING. TAXES ARE DOWN, ECONOMY IS GOOD. BUSH WILL FIX THE IMMIGRATION PROBLEM. OH YES...WHICH ONE OF YOU EVER THOUGHT WE WOULD BE 5 YEARS AFTER 9/11 AND NOT HIS AGAIN BY TERRORISTS?


351 posted on 05/10/2006 8:40:06 PM PDT by Bobbisox (CLOSETHE BORDERS FIRST! NO AMNESTY (no matter what you call it!))
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To: Peach
It details how leftists come to sites like this one, sign up, post as conservatives for a while to establish their credentials, and then, when they see an opportunity, start to turn the conservative base against Republicans. Jim Robinson was able to follow where posters were coming from and in the 90's, lots and lots of posters were pretending to be conservatives but were actually posting from the Clinton White House and Washington Post, etc.

Well, that confirms a suspicion of mine.

They are corroding this site - seems like a lot signed on around the time Blather-Rather was taken down. (Actually, I did too - that's when I became aware of FR - and it was my sanity saver in a insane time) -

Looks like FR has become a deliberate target - we know how the libs are at irrational pay back - and they are using tactics straight out of the Communist Party handbook. Infiltrate-lay low - plot,plan and strike when right.

Are we going to let this continue?

352 posted on 05/10/2006 8:40:13 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Junior_G

Why don't you stop talking to me? I don't remember giving a damn what you think.


353 posted on 05/10/2006 8:40:30 PM PDT by ilovew (Democrat enablers are not conservatives.)
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To: sinkspur
Bush should have spent more time using his bully pulpit pushing a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage than on the war on terror, because the former is a greater treat to the survival of the America we know and love, than the latter.

Just some random keyboard punching.

354 posted on 05/10/2006 8:40:48 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Peach

Thanks, Peach. I did see that. Another lie from the MSM? Color me shocked!

Anyway, I do disagree with the President's immigration policy. He honestly think he believes that his is the best course of action, and I respect that. I don't regret voting for him twice, despite that disagreement.

My major issue is with the Republican-controlled Congress over their profligate spending. The President shares culpability because of his refusal to exercise his veto.

The premise of the article is flawed, but these discussions are important to have no matter how they tax our patience. Anyone who would not vote for a conservative Republic because they don't like George W. Bush is an idiot.

However, it is high time for Republican politicians to quit lurching to the left. This is becoming more and more common - do they not realize that Republicans are elected by conservatives, not liberals or moderates?


355 posted on 05/10/2006 8:40:49 PM PDT by Doohickey (Democrats are nothing without a constituency of victims.)
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To: Doohickey
I don't consider voting third party a proxy vote for a Democrat.

Just because you don't personally consider that a vote for Rats doesn't make that a fact. I think it's a way of feeling better about yourself if a Rat wins and knowing you threw your vote away.

However, of John McCain happens to be the Republican nominee in '08 I will look elsewhere.

Don't even talk about McCain, there is no way he'll be the nominee.

356 posted on 05/10/2006 8:40:58 PM PDT by KJC1 (A 3 strikes you're out policy for hijacking non-immigration threads would be great)
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To: maine-iac7

Jim Robinson knows as well as anyone what's going on. He and the mods can fix it; in the meantime, I'll be darned if I'm going to let the hysterics drive the agenda.


357 posted on 05/10/2006 8:41:13 PM PDT by Peach
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To: MJY1288
I can't take another night of these friggin people who think our immigration problems were born on January 20th, 2001.

Of course they were not. But they damned sure are coming to a head.

358 posted on 05/10/2006 8:41:26 PM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: KJC1

Why don't you guys stuff Hillary and Kerry up one of your personal orifaces of your own choosing and take responsibility for your own failings. If you stopped worrying about what you think will be the result of others abandoning you because of your behavior and concentrated on fixing your behavior, you wouldn't have anything to worry about. It isn't their fault that you will not do your job, will not listen and will not do what's right for the country. That rests at the doorstep of the GOP. And, if you haven't figured it out, these people had it with the Dems and threw them out. Now they've had it with the GOP. What did you think would happen when the public is already fed to the teeth with this stuff.. let it pass when they've gotten used to doing something about it.. Grow up and take responsibility or go down with your ship and shut up.


359 posted on 05/10/2006 8:41:42 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: steel_resolve
Reread the post jackass.

That's uncalled for.

360 posted on 05/10/2006 8:41:44 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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