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Hard Core Republicans Are Fleeing President
The Washington Post ^ | May 11, 2006 | JIm VandeHei and Peter Baker

Posted on 05/10/2006 7:15:13 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers

Disaffection over spending and immigration have caused conservatives to take flight from President Bush and the Republican Congress at a rapid pace in recent weeks, sending Bush's approval ratings to record lows and presenting a new threat to the GOP's 12-year reign on Capitol Hill, according to White House officials, lawmakers and new polling data.

Bush and Congress have suffered a decline in support from almost every part of the conservative coalition over the past year, a trend that has accelerated with alarming implications for Bush's governing strategy.

The Gallup polling organization recorded a 13-percentage-point drop in Republican support for Bush in the past couple weeks. These usually reliable voters are telling pollsters and lawmakers they are fed up with what they see as out-of-control spending by Washington and an abandonment of core conservative principles more generally.

There are also significant pockets of conservatives turning on Bush and Congress over the their failure to tighten immigration laws, restrict gay marriage and to put an end to the Iraq war and the rash of political scandals, according to lawmakers and pollsters.

Bush won two presidential elections by pursuing a political and governing model that was predicated on winning and sustaining the loyal backing of social, economic and foreign policy conservatives. The strategy was based on the belief that conservatives, who are often more politically active than the general public, could be inspired to vote in larger numbers and would serve as a reliable foundation for his presidency. The theory, as explained by Bush strategists, is that the president would enjoy a floor below which his support would never fall.

It is now apparent that this floor has weakened dramatically and collapsed in places.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adolescents; borderlist; bush; bushbots; conservatives; gopcheerleader; sickofrinos; wetoleratenodissent
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To: sinkspur

He is or was a security guard at an airport.


1,381 posted on 05/11/2006 5:06:16 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

The law requires those who employ others to obtain documents to verify they are legal to be hired. Not doing so is commission of a felony by the employer.

I see you condone employers who commit felonies.


1,382 posted on 05/11/2006 5:07:56 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

immediate amnesty for illegals (as opposed to earned citizenship proposed by Bush)that immediate amnesty alone will make 11 million new Democrat voters instead of giving them a chance to earn citizenship and be brought into the ownership society,

I don't know about that -- even my more liberal friends are pissed off about immigration.


1,383 posted on 05/11/2006 5:08:11 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: nicmarlo
The law requires those who employ others to obtain documents to verify they are legal to be hired. Not doing so is commission of a felony by the employer

That's funny, that's the same thing Sinkspur said. Interesting.

1,384 posted on 05/11/2006 5:08:55 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
He is or was a security guard at an airport.

A rent-a-cop, huh?

1,385 posted on 05/11/2006 5:09:57 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: nicmarlo
The law requires those who employ others to obtain documents to verify they are legal to be hired. Not doing so is commission of a felony by the employer.

I'm not an "employer." I contracted with a remodeler, a pasty-faced white guy, so I suppose he was legal.

It is HIS job to verify the status of his employees.

1,386 posted on 05/11/2006 5:12:01 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: sinkspur
A rent-a-cop, huh?

He was a uniformed Customs agent as I remember it. He has never worked on the border.

1,387 posted on 05/11/2006 5:12:03 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever; sinkspur

ILLEGAL HIRING: Section 1324a states: "Any person who knowingly hires/harbors/transports any illegal alien is guilty of a felony punishable by 10 years jail + $2000 fine per illegal alien + forfeiture of the vehicle or property used to commit the crime".

Federal Law--Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

"A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he: assists an illegal alien she/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or encourages that illegal alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.


1,388 posted on 05/11/2006 5:13:00 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: sinkspur

But you did hire him to work on your house. You acted as employer to an illegal. And bragged about it.


1,389 posted on 05/11/2006 5:13:57 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo

If Sinkspur broke the law then so do you every time you enter a restaurant and eat, a contracted service, shop in a grocery store that has a few illegals in the back or any of a hundred other places you come into contact with illegals. You are a hypocrite to try to accuse a freeper of criminal conduct when you do the same damned thing every day.


1,390 posted on 05/11/2006 5:15:57 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Spiff
When Tom Tancredo accidentally did it, when he found out about his error he was upset that the error had been made and ensured that it would never happen again.

Please if tancredo were true to his rhetoric, after he founbd out some illegal labor installed a theater in his basement, he would have invited the cameras and with a sledgehammer destroyed his basement theater because it was built with impure labor, according to tancredo "standards".

1,391 posted on 05/11/2006 5:16:24 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Texasforever

ILLEGAL HIRING: Section 1324a states: "Any person who knowingly hires/harbors/transports any illegal alien is guilty of a felony punishable by 10 years jail + $2000 fine per illegal alien + forfeiture of the vehicle or property used to commit the crime".

Federal Law--Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

"A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he: assists an illegal alien she/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or encourages that illegal alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.


1,392 posted on 05/11/2006 5:17:11 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo
I hired a legal contractor.

He is known, for IRS purposes, as an "Independent Contractor." He is responsible for paying his subs, and for withholding FICA taxes.

There is no employer-employee relationship.

1,393 posted on 05/11/2006 5:17:36 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: nicmarlo

Then turn yourself in. You have lost the argument.


1,394 posted on 05/11/2006 5:17:50 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: nicmarlo
But you did hire him to work on your house.

As did Tancredo. Do you support him?

Anti-Immigration Rep. Accused of Hiring Illegal Workers

Even if the workers were in the country illegally, "what is my responsibility at this point in time?" Tancredo said in a telephone interview from Washington. "I go to dinner at restaurants and probably have come into contact with people who are here illegally. I do not ask, of course. It is actually illegal and you can be sued."

1,395 posted on 05/11/2006 5:17:56 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: sinkspur
You bragged about hiring an illegal. What do you not understand about this?

assists an illegal alien she/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or encourages that illegal alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

1,396 posted on 05/11/2006 5:19:12 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: sinkspur
It is HIS job to verify the status of his employees.

You BRAGGED about having illegal aliens work in your house.

1,397 posted on 05/11/2006 5:20:38 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Texasforever

The onus is on the employer to verify proper documentation. The clue in the language of the law is "employer".

A patron of a store is not charged with a duty to verify employment documentation. Or, where do you see that written in the language of the law posted several times now?

Being obtuse is not a legal defense.


1,398 posted on 05/11/2006 5:21:29 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: nicmarlo; Spiff; Marine Inspector
Tell that to Tancredo and stop your whining. I will say this, not you not Spiff and not Marine_inspector are going to tell me who the hell I can hire to mow my lawn, paint my house or anything else. If you don't like it turn me in.
1,399 posted on 05/11/2006 5:21:54 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: nicmarlo
A patron of a store is not charged with a duty to verify employment documentation. Or, where do you see that written in the language of the law posted several times now?

BS. Look at what Tancredo himself said. Send his ass to GITMO quick.

1,400 posted on 05/11/2006 5:23:11 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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