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Hard Core Republicans Are Fleeing President
The Washington Post ^ | May 11, 2006 | JIm VandeHei and Peter Baker

Posted on 05/10/2006 7:15:13 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers

Disaffection over spending and immigration have caused conservatives to take flight from President Bush and the Republican Congress at a rapid pace in recent weeks, sending Bush's approval ratings to record lows and presenting a new threat to the GOP's 12-year reign on Capitol Hill, according to White House officials, lawmakers and new polling data.

Bush and Congress have suffered a decline in support from almost every part of the conservative coalition over the past year, a trend that has accelerated with alarming implications for Bush's governing strategy.

The Gallup polling organization recorded a 13-percentage-point drop in Republican support for Bush in the past couple weeks. These usually reliable voters are telling pollsters and lawmakers they are fed up with what they see as out-of-control spending by Washington and an abandonment of core conservative principles more generally.

There are also significant pockets of conservatives turning on Bush and Congress over the their failure to tighten immigration laws, restrict gay marriage and to put an end to the Iraq war and the rash of political scandals, according to lawmakers and pollsters.

Bush won two presidential elections by pursuing a political and governing model that was predicated on winning and sustaining the loyal backing of social, economic and foreign policy conservatives. The strategy was based on the belief that conservatives, who are often more politically active than the general public, could be inspired to vote in larger numbers and would serve as a reliable foundation for his presidency. The theory, as explained by Bush strategists, is that the president would enjoy a floor below which his support would never fall.

It is now apparent that this floor has weakened dramatically and collapsed in places.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adolescents; borderlist; bush; bushbots; conservatives; gopcheerleader; sickofrinos; wetoleratenodissent
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you, Jim, for clarifying.

I know I would hate to be thought of by anyone as 'the enemy' or 'the beast' and still I'm sorry to hear that you feel some here might even be being 'used by the enemy' or 'the beast' in some way . I'm not sure in what context that would be, but I hope that the 'those' you refer to aren't the 'those' who disagree with Bush, since flip side of that same coin would be to say that Bush, by taking the position he has, is being 'used by the enemy' or 'the beast' to divide the party. See what I mean? Scary thought!!

Aside from the immigration issue, I think mostly we all want the same thing, and fear loosing the same thing....our majority, in November. Unfortunately it seems fear has taken hold, FR has (frankly) beome a war zone and the immigration issue has become the weapon we are beating each other up with. If this continues the dems will have it made in the shade. Pointing out the obvious, I know. Just wish there was a way to get everyone back on the same page.


1,361 posted on 05/11/2006 4:03:52 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: sinkspur
Come on, I was going to let it go (for now) but now you're backpedaling.

You said, and I quote, "Illegal immigration is not a "fighting" issue for me. I've had too much experience with illegals who worked their butts off after I couldn't get legal workers to do a job right. I think that's why lots of Americans are just not that upset with allowing illegals to remain in America after we close the borders. They've seen the work they do and their work ethic and admire it."

Don't squirm. You're embarassing yourself just like the poster did yesterday when he got caught fudging numbers.

1,362 posted on 05/11/2006 4:08:35 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff
I suspect they were illegals, but, since I never asked for "papers," I have no idea.

But, as I said, I really don't care. I got an almost new house out of it.

1,363 posted on 05/11/2006 4:16:52 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Any solution advanced by anyone on this board is a cathartic exercise at best.Thus I do not participate in this charade.

However, ensuring the empowerment Democrats is contemptible.

1,364 posted on 05/11/2006 4:18:19 PM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: sinkspur
I suspect they were illegals, but, since I never asked for "papers," I have no idea. But, as I said, I really don't care. I got an almost new house out of it.

Sink. Come on. You were bragging about hiring illegals and saying how much better their work was in your home remodeling than legal, American workers. That's what your post said. Now you're saying that you were not sure, that you only suspect, that you never asked for papers, and even that you "have no idea" that they were illegals.

Then you say that you don't really care. Well, obviously you do or you wouldn't be trying so hard to cover up what you said in that earlier post. Your admission was bad enough, but this squirming makes it so much worse. You know, when you find yourself in a hole it's a good idea to stop digging if you don't want to go any deeper. Put the shovel down, Sink.

1,365 posted on 05/11/2006 4:28:20 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Jim Robinson

"If you do not wish amnesty, you should not be so willing to usher in the Democrats."

But what about pro-amnesty Republicans, Jim? The issue is not exclusive to Democrats. BOTH the Democrats, some Republicans like Frist AND President Bush ALL will give amnesty.

What you said would be comparable to saying "If you do not wish UNSECURED BORDERS, you should not be so willing to support President Bush".


1,366 posted on 05/11/2006 4:30:48 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: sinkspur
I've had too much experience with illegals who worked their butts off after I couldn't get legal workers...

Interesting.

1,367 posted on 05/11/2006 4:39:31 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: verity

"However, ensuring the empowerment Democrats is contemptible."

I agree. But who's to blame for that? Bush and those Reps and Dems who agree with him or those who disagree with him?


1,368 posted on 05/11/2006 4:42:49 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Kimberly GG
I support President Bush and the Republicans whether I agree with them on every issue or not. I despise the Democrats and everything they stand for.
1,369 posted on 05/11/2006 4:45:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Spiff; sinkspur
No kidding.
Just be honest and use the direct route.
1,370 posted on 05/11/2006 4:45:44 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Doesn't matter who gets the blame. Ensuring the empowerment Democrats is most definitely contemptible!


1,371 posted on 05/11/2006 4:47:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: nicmarlo; sinkspur; Spiff
"Interesting."

I would say damning.

As for you, sinkspur, nothing you can say on the illegal alien issue after this little display will be taken seriously. Nothing. You didn't have much credibility to start with, but now your credibility account is zero.

1,372 posted on 05/11/2006 4:49:41 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: sinkspur

http://www.ccusa.com/


1,373 posted on 05/11/2006 4:49:59 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: Czar; sinkspur; Spiff
You didn't have much credibility to start with, but now your credibility account is zero.

as in nada

1,374 posted on 05/11/2006 4:53:38 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I support President Bush and the Republicans whether I agree with them on every issue or not. I despise the Democrats and everything they stand for.

I agree with you on that!

1,375 posted on 05/11/2006 4:54:39 PM PDT by tapatio
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To: Spiff; sinkspur
I've had too much experience with illegals who worked their butts off after I couldn't get legal workers to do a job right.

Lets see, apparently sinkspur does not mind breaking these two laws:

TITLE 8 CHAPTER 12 SUBCHAPTER II Part VIII Section 1324a - Unlawful employment of aliens.

TITLE 8 CHAPTER 12 SUBCHAPTER II Part VIII Section 1324b - Unfair immigration-related employment practices.

1,376 posted on 05/11/2006 4:59:59 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Marine Inspector

Are you still active duty?


1,377 posted on 05/11/2006 5:01:48 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Czar
As for you, sinkspur, nothing you can say on the illegal alien issue after this little display will be taken seriously.

I don't know how I'll sleep tonight.

1,378 posted on 05/11/2006 5:04:20 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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To: nicmarlo
Interesting.

When you go to a restaurant, your contractor for the evening, do you ask every dishwasher and busboy for their green cards?

1,379 posted on 05/11/2006 5:05:13 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Marine Inspector
Ah, jeez!!

A copper.

1,380 posted on 05/11/2006 5:05:42 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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