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Turkey- US Friend or Foe? (Never trust the IslamoFascist Turks)
Kurdistan Observer ^ | 2006 Apr 20 | Gene Rossides

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:45:24 AM PDT by Wiz

The surfacing last year in Turkey of virulent anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism raises the question of what should U.S. relations with Turkey be in the interests of the U.S.?

To answer this question we need to answer the following first

Is Turkey a reliable ally?

What is Turkey’s strategic, political and economic value to the U.S.?

Is Turkey a friend or a foe of the U.S. (or somewhere in-between)?

I submit that Turkey is not a friend of the U.S.; that Turkey’s interests basically are not compatible with U.S. interests; that Turkey is of minimal strategic value to the U.S. and that Turkey is clearly and fundamentally an unreliable ally.

Let’s look at the record.

Is Turkey a reliable ally?

The evidence is overwhelming that Turkey is an unreliable ally whose actions damaged the U.S. during the Cold War decades and more recently in the 21st century.

I have written previously regarding Turkey’s traitorous conduct during the Cold War when Turkey actively aided the Soviet military to the serious detriment of the U.S. Let me repeat three examples.

1. During the 1973 Mid-East War, Turkey refused the U.S. military overflight rights to resupply Israel and granted the U.S.S.R. overland military convoy rights to resupply Syria and Iraq, and military overflight permission to resupply Egypt. A member of the Turkish Foreign Policy Institute in Ankara wrote:

During the Arab-Israeli war of 1973, Moscow’s overflights of Turkish airspace were tolerated. On the other hand, during the same Middle East conflict, Turkey refused to allow the United States refueling and reconnaissance facilities during the American airlift to Israel. (Karaosmanoglu, “Turkey’s Security and the Middle East,” 52 Foreign Affairs 157, 163, Fall 1983.)

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To: ScreamingFist

I notice you did'nt answer the Israel question. Do you support Israel's right to exist as a nation?


61 posted on 05/09/2006 9:50:48 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME
So do you hate Israel to?

Do you actually read threads or just make comments? I'm the one defending Turkey's alliance with Israel and have been poo pooed by all the pro-greek, pro arab posters on the thread. Try to keep up.

62 posted on 05/09/2006 9:52:44 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: ScreamingFist

Right....


63 posted on 05/09/2006 9:53:47 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: ScreamingFist

From what I recall reading at the time, there was also a lot of pressure from EU (France in particular) for Turkey to not accept the U.S. Northern Front deal. Basically threathening to derail Turkey's EU accession talks if they let U.S. enter Iraq from their border.


64 posted on 05/09/2006 9:55:42 AM PDT by L.M.H.
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Post #20 and #22, for starters.....


65 posted on 05/09/2006 9:56:23 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: ScreamingFist

I've read the whole thread Achmed. Just asking a question that muzzies seems to skirt around. Carry on. ;)


66 posted on 05/09/2006 9:57:47 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME
I've read the whole thread Achmed. Just asking a question that muzzies seems to skirt around. Carry on. ;)

I'm confused....I've posted a pro-Israel/Turkey article from an Israeli website, along with "hate Turkey" article from an islamofacist in London and a English translation of Turkish Special Forces (The Wolves, screw with them at your own peril) trained by Americans......

And you ask if I hate Israel and call me Achmed....apparently IQ's have dropped sharply on FR lately....

67 posted on 05/09/2006 10:05:00 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: L.M.H.
From what I recall reading at the time, there was also a lot of pressure from EU (France in particular) for Turkey to not accept the U.S. Northern Front deal. Basically threathening to derail Turkey's EU accession talks if they let U.S. enter Iraq from their border.

You recall correctly, I believe. It didn't help Turkey at all for EU status but did PO lots of Americans with keyboard opinions...apparently.

68 posted on 05/09/2006 10:08:21 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: ScreamingFist

You are dealing with greek antagonists (wiz, iraqikurd, etc) and weak minded freepers who have been influenced by them. I thank you for your help brother, but unless you are having a good time right now, you are wasting your time.


69 posted on 05/09/2006 10:32:29 AM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice, Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria..)
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To: a_Turk
I thank you for your help brother, but unless you are having a good time right now, you are wasting your time.

Sometimes you just HAVE to throw down.....and it's never a waste of time, perhaps lurkers have learned something today.......;)

Regards.

70 posted on 05/09/2006 10:36:20 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: ScreamingFist

NATO is using turkey.
The E.U. refuses to allow them into the club.
And the base lease is long term.
How's that Kurd problem you have there smelly?
Get your facts real.


73 posted on 05/09/2006 12:28:39 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Wiz
Shall I also mention about we you have yet to mention about the murder of Italian Catholic priest killed months ago by an Islamofascist Turk in Turkey,

Whatever the Turk did, that will not justify what the Catholic Church did in the Inquisition, the Witchhunts, the Albigensian Crusade, St Bartholemews Eve, the slaughter of Native Americans, Canary Wharf.

74 posted on 05/09/2006 4:02:09 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Natural Selection is the Free Market : Intelligent Design is the Centrally Planned Economy)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Just leave the "multi personality" idiot alone, will you? Anyway, that priest wasn't responsible for the inquisition..

I was at a bat mitzvah in Indianapolis, where the Rabbi's greatgrandfather was from Izmir. We had a good conversation. He is planning on an interfaith "habitat for humanity" project this summer. I'm going to stop and lend him a hand for a couple of days.

Meanwihle this "wiz" and his "fake kurd" alter ego can continue to spew hate. He'll just end up in the dung heap of history.


75 posted on 05/09/2006 4:38:29 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice, Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria..)
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To: Oztrich Boy; ScreamingFist

Here is some info on the writer. notice the Greek connection.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Gene+Rossides&btnG=Google+Search

And here is a list of links pertaining to "Megail Idea"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=megali+idea&spell=1


76 posted on 05/09/2006 6:12:16 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice, Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria..)
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To: a_Turk

I meant to type "Megali Idea"


77 posted on 05/09/2006 6:12:52 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice, Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria..)
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To: Wiz

Ping for the truth.


78 posted on 08/29/2006 10:52:43 AM PDT by eleni121 (General Draza Mihailovich: We will never forget you - the hero of World War Two)
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