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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: Junior_G
"Guest worker program" just sounds so warm and fuzzy and...compassionate.

You mean like "Compassionate Conservitive"? Feh!

1,161 posted on 05/09/2006 6:52:18 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: papertyger
Precisely.

The so-called "WAR ON TERRORISM" is simply unsustainable when on the one hand authorities would not think twice about putting a slug through someone's cranium if they bolted the CIQ lines (a so-called official US Port of Entry) at any international airport in the USA and subsequently ran rampant avoiding I.C.E. agents, whereas at perhaps the exact same time, thousands would be pouring across the border, outside of Ports of Entry, including (increasing numbers of) OTMs, and onto US soil through a massive human smuggling infrastructure avoiding our Department of Homeland Security. Totally unsustainable and patently ludicrous.

The War on Terrorism is an abject failure as long as the US national borders are such as disgrace as they are.


1,162 posted on 05/09/2006 6:52:45 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Declare the land all along our border w/Mexico as 'British territory'. THEN we'd finally protect it!)
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To: ilovew

You'll come around. I like arguing with you in fact. Take it easy.


1,163 posted on 05/09/2006 6:53:35 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Declare the land all along our border w/Mexico as 'British territory'. THEN we'd finally protect it!)
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To: ilovew
on the bright side, I'm not a socialist like most of the people at my college

Bless you then, I know how hard it is for anyone to the right of Chompsky on today's college campus.

The fact is many of us see this single issue as a 'make or break' for this country. I'm one of them - if we go the wrong way on this nothing else matters.

If my own party will not stand up for a principle as simple as maintaining control over who gets to call themselves an American then I have utterly no use for them.

1,164 posted on 05/09/2006 6:54:01 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: La Enchiladita

Let's hope this story is bogus.


1,165 posted on 05/09/2006 6:55:21 PM PDT by antceecee (Hey AG Gonzales! ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!)
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To: ilovew
Your point being what? I don't know why people mention my age as though I had a choice when I was born.

My point being I don't turn on my party over trivialities...are you being willfully obtuse?

1,166 posted on 05/09/2006 6:55:37 PM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: Marine Inspector; clawrence3

Or type blatant nonsense, which many of his posts are and he knows it.


1,167 posted on 05/09/2006 6:56:35 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: cva66snipe
You are saying what I've been saying, though you do a much better job of it.
1,168 posted on 05/09/2006 6:57:06 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (Borders. Language. Culture. AAA-0. Free Travis Mcgee.)
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To: skeeter

I don't see this as the only issue going on right now. I understand it's really important to a lot of people. But I think any time the rats are allowed to take control of the country, nothing good can come from it.


1,169 posted on 05/09/2006 6:57:47 PM PDT by ilovew (Democrat enablers are not conservatives.)
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To: papertyger

**My point being I don't turn on my party over trivialities**

That wasn't the impression I got.


1,170 posted on 05/09/2006 6:58:40 PM PDT by ilovew (Democrat enablers are not conservatives.)
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To: clawrence3
I am defending my country

Would that be Mexico?

1,171 posted on 05/09/2006 7:00:40 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: nicmarlo
The Mexicans shouldn't be getting any information about their illegals except where to pick them up to take them home. They should get no information about the Minutemen from our government at all. Especially from Homeland Security who apparently have enough people to stop watching Islamonazis and start watching Americans exercising their rights.

"MY HAIR IS ON FIRE"

JEDI
1,172 posted on 05/09/2006 7:01:16 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Tammy8

: )


1,173 posted on 05/09/2006 7:01:17 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

And when it comes to pandering to minorities, nobody can outpander the Democrats.


1,174 posted on 05/09/2006 7:01:47 PM PDT by stands2reason ("Patriotism is the highest form of dissent." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Peach

"I saw it and didn't initially believe it but was ultimately persuaded it's true. And outrageous.

And I will say this -- if Republicans don't turn AT LEAST this procedure around, they are toast in November."

Surprised that you said that. I think you are right.


1,175 posted on 05/09/2006 7:02:05 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Howlin
To: Idisarthur
Attention:

Those of you who are calling for revolution, secession, violence, impeachment, etc, will no longer be posting on FR. Sheesh, it's a phony report (pure Marxist propaganda), but it sure is exposing a lot of hothead idiot trolls.
178 posted on 05/09/2006 3:10:17 PM MDT by Jim Robinson

Whoa! I just saw that admonition by JimRob on the Tancredo thread and am posting it -- he claims its a phony report. But others say they have not been able to contact the reporter. It's on AP on the Fox News site now. Tomorrow will be interesting.
1,176 posted on 05/09/2006 7:05:00 PM PDT by CedarDave (Gen. McCaffrey: "There is a rapidly growing animosity" among U.S. troops in Iraq toward the press...)
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To: JediForce
Especially from Homeland Security who apparently have enough people to stop watching Islamonazis and start watching Americans exercising their rights.

Well, they ARE understaffed, doncha know. Americans are so much easier to apprehend than criminal invaders....there's so many more of them.

1,177 posted on 05/09/2006 7:05:08 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Tammy8

No - my country is America - are you sure you have never seen my repeated posts that I was born in the U.S.A.?


1,178 posted on 05/09/2006 7:06:01 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: CedarDave

The White House has denied it; not that it matters to anybody here.

As for it being on all those sites, you know exactly how that works: one person puts it up and the rest of them change a few words and post it like their own.

So far, I've not seen one iota of proof that this is true.


1,179 posted on 05/09/2006 7:06:37 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: nicmarlo

Well.."Home"land Security could try "Home Depot" to find some of the invaders. :-)



JEDI


1,180 posted on 05/09/2006 7:07:17 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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