Posted on 05/08/2006 9:22:39 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
Why did my father, who went to Montclair State, have folks from Harvard working FOR him?
"Why did my father, who went to Montclair State, have folks from Harvard working FOR him?"
Answer;
1. He needed amusement?
2.Everyone else who didn't have a Harvard degree got all the better jobs?
3.He felt sorry for them?
4. All of the above.
Or, maybe your father was a very smart fellow! They don't teach smart at Harvard and so I'm sure the Harvard graduates thought he had an unfair advantage. I'm also sure the Harvard people thought it wasn't politically correct for your father to be that smart and not share it with the other people!
"Despite more and more evidence that graduates of the most selective schools do not earn much more over their lifetimes than their counterparts at other very good but less selective colleges, many students (and their parents, who pay the freight) still believe there is the kind of earnings premium for attending elite schools that might have existed a half century back."
The only kids who go to elitist schools that earn the big bucks are the kids of wealthy parents who get them their jobs after they graduate.
It sucked at the time, but has turned out to be meaningless, as is 95% of the who-gets-in-where BS.
If we had real high schools like the kind we used to have, we would not need so many colleges and there would not be so much demand for college graduates to do the kind of job that used to be handled by people with an eighth grade education.
"The only kids who go to elitist schools that earn the big bucks are the kids of wealthy parents who get them their jobs after they graduate."
I think your statement is upside down, wrong. The wealthy kids often lack motivation to earn money.
In any event, too many colleges are not worth the price. Parents are paying from $100,000 to $160,000 for an undergrad degree that qualifies junior or sis for practically nothing, except radical politics. This is truly dumb.
Some of their classmates were wise enough to take the "full ride" to less prestigious state universities.
As the "elite" Ivy League schools become more PC oriented, the degrees awarded there become less useful in the real world. After all, who in their right mind would hire someone indoctrinated in various left wing -isms to make decisions which could make or lose billions of dollars for the company. I for one would take someone who worked their way through a good local college over a Harvard type any day. They have real world experience and have proven that they are willing to work, and are not burdened with PC indoctrination on the levels found at places like Harvard.
I applied to all 8 Ivies. Because I had SATs (real ones) >1500, I had a shot. Because my HS average was 89.93, they all could figure out that I was lazy.
I went to Colgate, which (fortunately) was trying to raise their Princeton Review ranking, which as you know weights average freshman SAT score highly.
I had a blast at Colgate, which was not then co-ed, but no, that had nothing to do with what I did later.
My kids go to state schools. I think the whole thing is a scam.
I went to a state school too. Once you get into the "real world," no one cares where you went to school. Its all about how you perform.
"We alumni of U of Chicago like to refer to Harvard as a safety school."
Funny. My daughter's at Notre Dame. When Boston College visited for a basketball game last year, some students posted a banner that said, "Welcome Wait-Listed Students."
"If you have a really smart kid, some schools will pay him or her to attend!"
That's what they want you to think.
"I think your statement is upside down, wrong. The wealthy kids often lack motivation to earn money. "
And that is why their parents get them the jobs. :)
"I think your statement is upside down, wrong. The wealthy kids often lack motivation to earn money. "
And that is why their parents get them the jobs. :)
it's the same for med school... got accepted "up north" but went to UT Southwestern in Dallas... had great MCAT's (the default answer was "B" that year)..plus a great tan... so I got a full ride. Dallas was great, Boston was a cold, gloomy rather dilapidated city.
The guys I know that went to Ivy League schools had incredible debt coming out, I ended up with $15,000 total debt when I graduated. The other thing is that they really didn't do as much clinically as we did in Parkland. In other words, I'm glad I stayed in Texas. I had to go up north for residency... and it permanently cured me of ever wanting to live in the Northeast....or north of the Red River.
"daughter who is INSISTING that I pay for an Ivy League Education ( she got into Columbia with no tuition aid at all ) when I can only afford the tuition for a good state university"
Would she be willing to take out loans to pay the difference? What does she want to major in?
"In any event, too many colleges are not worth the price. Parents are paying from $100,000 to $160,000 for an undergrad degree that qualifies junior or sis for practically nothing, except radical politics. This is truly dumb."
Yep. For a better long-term career choice, save the money on the undergrad and put it towards grad school.
I got accepted to GW and SUNY med school. GW was then $13K/py, I got an exam scholarship to SUNY and paid $800/py which I made easily as a part-time letter carrier.
Debt = ZERO.
You were not exactly slumming. Colgate is a very good school.
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