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I'm more upset with Conservatives than I am with George W. Bush

Posted on 05/08/2006 7:04:26 PM PDT by mwfsu84

If I had told you on 9/11/2001 that we'd go four and half years and counting without another terrorist attack on US soil, would you have believed me?

If I had told you that US-led forces would secure Afghanistan in just a few months...something the Soviets couldn't accomplish in ten years...would you have thought I was crazy?

If I had told you that Saddam was gone, that Khadaffy had renounced terrorism, and that Iraq was on the verge of becoming the second democracy in the Middle East, would have thought I was on medication?

Sometimes in our disappointment of this administration, we often forget some of the positives. The economy is strong. More Americans are homeowners. With tax cuts, we're spending less time working for Uncle Sam.

And if you take those benefits for granted, just imagine how much different things would be under a President Al Gore.

So if the president's stance on immigration and spending upset you - and they do upset me - what are you going to do about it? Stay at home? Nothing could be worse for conservativism. Your non-support will usher in more immigrants, higher taxes, and weaker national security.

If the GOP loses Congress, George W. Bush will be removed from office. Nothing would embolden terrorists more. How can we be counted on to wage an effective war when we can't even decide who our enemy is?

George W. Bush isn't the enemy. But that's exactly the message conservatives will send to the world if they stay at home this November.

If you're upset with W. on immigration - write him, write a Republican Congressman, let him know how you feel. It was conservatives who got Bush to change his mind on Harriet Meirs.

I promise you, a Democratic Congress won't be nearly as responsive to your needs.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: notaweinerbot; notstuckonstupid; patronizing; reaganhaters
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To: onyx

So true. It's easy to accuse people of changing principles...especially if they don't know what your principles are. I don't believe there's anyone on FR who knows all of my principles.


861 posted on 05/08/2006 11:19:30 PM PDT by ilovew (Democrat enablers are not conservatives.)
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To: Dawnsblood

A vote for a third party is a vote for the Dims - good Lord, how many times must we learn this lesson?


862 posted on 05/08/2006 11:19:36 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: pollyannaish
But I realized that if you do not add voices of dissent or support on issues, you are ceding ground to others.

Exactly. And those of us who are not on the extreme end of the party have a tendency to retreat in these debates and let others set the agenda without our voices being heard.

We don't have to all agree here

There are some who think we have to agree with THEM word for word.

863 posted on 05/08/2006 11:19:47 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: maine-iac7
"starting to think it's a concerted effort to infiltrate and hopefully dilute FR - we threaten the socialist agenda"

Or maybe the immigration rallies held around our nation to flaunt the invasion was the straw that broke the camels back for many conservatives, and they are pissed. Therefore they complain online.
864 posted on 05/08/2006 11:19:47 PM PDT by RHINO369
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To: mwfsu84

You are right on for so many reasons.

One issue that should be perhaps most important to our Constitution Party "friends" is that the next president will get ATLEAST one nomination to the Supreme Court, perhaps more. We have (or so we think) four solid votes right now. On many issues, we only need one more (abortion obviously being the most important).

Vote 3rd party = let Hillary put another Ruth Bader on the Supreme Court. Thanks, guys, for voting your convictions and "sending the GOP a message." That'll do us all a lot of good in 2008.


865 posted on 05/08/2006 11:20:00 PM PDT by RebekahT ("Our government is not the solution to the problem, government is the problem." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: ilovew


But theirs will always trump yours. See how that works?


866 posted on 05/08/2006 11:20:12 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Texasforever
Oh get lost. You make my teeth itch.

Brush 'em, then.

867 posted on 05/08/2006 11:20:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: Junior_G

Sure you do. Everybody here knows it.


868 posted on 05/08/2006 11:20:23 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: onyx
It's their life blood.

Yeah, I can see it's a never ending circle for them. I guess they stay happy that way.

869 posted on 05/08/2006 11:20:57 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: mystery-ak
....and what's with the old sign-up dates?

ever hear of "sleepers"?

An old communist/socialist tactic

870 posted on 05/08/2006 11:21:16 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: MaineVoter2002
I dont see how one can call themself a supporter of the GOP and demand that we accept the status quo and ignore the issues.

The issue is as follows: Democrats are trying to gain control of the Senate Judiciary committee in November. If they do, radical justices and judges will be appointed to the Supreme Court and the Federal circuit courts. The damage done under that scenario will be permanent.

The Democrats will also attempt a Constitutional Amendment throwing out the Electoral College. They will attempt to implement the Fairness Doctrine. They will attempt to impeach President Bush. They will use conrol of the House to attempt to ramp up their undermining of the War On Terror and the War In Iraq.

Given this scenario no conservative will cast a vote for anyone other than the Republican on their ballot in this year's elections. Anyone claiming to be a conservative while advocating anything but a Republican vote in this year's election is a fake, a charlatan, a phoney and a liar.

If you don't like it it's because you've been unmasked.

871 posted on 05/08/2006 11:21:16 PM PDT by Chunga (Mock The Left)
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To: RHINO369
We get it, your principles are that democrats are evil and republicans are good.

What's wrong about that? The democrats that are now in office are the farthest left in our history. They hate this country and prove it daily.

872 posted on 05/08/2006 11:21:26 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: ilovew
They don't like it when people have principles that are different than theirs.

It's very threatening to their core feelings about themselves.

I'm old enough to remember when conservatives didn't want ANYBODY in their bedrooms. Now we have a small faction that wants THEIR puritanical views foisted on the entire world.

873 posted on 05/08/2006 11:21:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: agincourt1415
Ann Coulter sez this is the last chance the Democrats have to win, the House and Senate.

She's exactly right.

874 posted on 05/08/2006 11:22:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: MaineVoter2002

That makes no sense to me. Voting for Hillary guarantees that you will have a socialist agenda. As much as I hate McCain, he's not a liberal. Really, I think it's not worth worrying about. McCain will NEVER make it out of the primaries. He doesn't have a chance in hell of winning.


875 posted on 05/08/2006 11:22:57 PM PDT by ilovew (Democrat enablers are not conservatives.)
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To: Howlin; woofie
I think, fwiw, that there are some very canny operatives that understand the nature of change within the Republican party and intend to exploit it to meet their own agenda. People like Buchanan, Huffington, Brock and Sullivan just to name a few. There are many, many more. Each is hell bent of helping the left for one reason or the other.

They are simply stirring the pot (on lots of levels) to reveal the natural in-party tensions between the old and new activists, the religious and fiscal conservatives, business owners and middle income employees, Pragmatists and perfectionists...etc.

Every party has them, but since things are so evenly divided in the country due to gerrymandering safe districts everywhere, the only way to win is divide and conquer. And that goes for our team as well...so I don't want to just pick on the other side in this.

If you want to see serious and significant change in this country...it's not getting rid of money (which won't happen because it's just driven underground with regulation), it's not imposing term limits (which just give Wilson/Plame/Clark-type bureaucrats greater control) it would be chopping the country up into reasonable squares instead of obscenely rigged millionagons that create a permanent ruling class.
876 posted on 05/08/2006 11:23:04 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: FoxInSocks
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

I have ONLY used the WORD ONCE that I can recall.

And I know what it means and I am referring to the ELITE LEFTISTS of wealth and privilege that run around Wash DC, SF, NY etc trying to stir up dissension in the GOP ranks.

This also refers to those LEFTISTS that just THINK they are elite and wish they came from wealth and privilege.

877 posted on 05/08/2006 11:23:18 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: DevSix
I firmly believe the good people of the GOP base are going to come together

I think it is time to throw the lunatic right off the reservation. They got everything they want except for summary execution of mexican illegals. The failure of the democrats disposing of their lunatics is what is costing them elections. The 3-4 % lunatics that we have in the right need to be purged or we will suffer the same fate as the democrats and that is being a dysfunctional party.

878 posted on 05/08/2006 11:23:36 PM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: Chunga
Sorry, that will cost us the election. The democrats lost in 2002 and 2004 simply because they told America what the republicans will do if the republicans win and they failed to tell American what they stood for and what they will do.

Get it?

879 posted on 05/08/2006 11:23:37 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: jazusamo

They're not happy people --- they're miserable and always remember the old adage that says "misery likes company."

That reveals their intent.


880 posted on 05/08/2006 11:23:42 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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