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1918 Letter Claims Geronimo's Bones Found
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/8/06 | Stephen Singer - ap

Posted on 05/08/2006 6:50:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

HARTFORD, Conn. - A Yale University historian discovered a 1918 letter that raises anew questions about a secretive Yale student society and the remains of the American Indian leader Geronimo.

The letter, written by a member of Skull and Bones to another member of the society, purports that some of the Indian leader's remains were spirited from his burial plot in Fort Sill, Okla., to a stone tomb in New Haven that serves as the club's headquarters.

A portion of the letter and an accompanying story were posted Monday on the Yale Alumni Magazine's Web site.

At one of the most selective universities in the country, Skull and Bones marks the elite of the elite. Only 15 Yale seniors are asked to join each year. Alumni include President Bush, Sen. John Kerry, President William Howard Taft, numerous members of Congress, media leaders, Wall Street financiers, the scions of wealthy families and agents in the CIA.

Members swear an oath of secrecy about the group and its strange rituals, which includes devotion to the number "322" and initiation rites that include confessing sexual secrets and kissing a skull. The atmosphere makes Skull and Bones favorite fodder for conspiracy theorists.

Its most enduring story concerns Geronimo, who died in 1909. According to lore, members of Skull and Bones — including the president's grandfather, Prescott Bush — dug up his grave when a group of Army volunteers from Yale were stationed at the fort during World War I.

A purported diary of the event, sent to a leader of the San Carlos Apache tribal nation in the 1980s by an anonymous Bonesman, records that the Bonesmen took from the grave some bones and several pieces of tack for a horse.

The 1918 letter posted on Yale's alumni Web site was discovered last fall by researcher Marc Wortman. The letter, sent to F. Trubee Davison by Winter Mead, said Geronimo's skull and other remains were taken from the leader's burial site.

"The skull of the worthy Geronimo the Terrible, exhumed from its tomb at Fort Sill by your club and Knight Haffuer is now safe inside the T- together with is well worn femurs, bit and saddle horn," Mead wrote.

Mead was not at Fort Sill and Wortman said Monday he is skeptical the bones are actually those of the famed Indian fighter.

"What I think we could probably say is they removed some skull and bones and other materials from a grave at Fort Sill," he said. "Historically, it may be impossible to prove it's Geronimo's. They believe it's from Geronimo."

Wortman said he found the letter in Yale's archives while researching Davison, a member of a group of wealthy Yale students who founded a flying squadron.

Harlyn Geronimo, the great grandson of Geronimo, said he has been looking for a lawyer to sue the U.S. Army, which runs Fort Sill. Discovery of the letter could help, he said.

"It's keeping it alive and now it makes me really want to confront the issue with my attorneys," said Geronimo, of Mescalero, N.M. "If we get the remains back ... and find that, for instance, that bones are missing, you know who to blame."

Wortman said that the letter is a great find, regardless of the letter's claim.

"I was stunned and I felt a little bit like I had stumbled on an illicit treasure and something that does not belong to me and something the world should know about," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1918; americanindians; bones; claims; found; geronimo; godsgravesglyphs; kinkyelis; letter; skullandbones; yale
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1 posted on 05/08/2006 6:50:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
How?

This is an undated photo of the Chiricahua Apache leader Geromino. (AP Photo, FILE)

2 posted on 05/08/2006 6:50:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bush's fault. Of course.


3 posted on 05/08/2006 6:52:13 PM PDT by JennysCool ("I simply do not remember getting out of bed.")
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To: NormsRevenge

What does Geronimo say when he jumps from a airplane




Meeeeeeeeee........


4 posted on 05/08/2006 6:52:30 PM PDT by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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To: NormsRevenge
I wonder why people yell "Geronimo" when jumping out of airplanes.

What kind of club would accept both Kerry and Bush anyway.

Weirdos

5 posted on 05/08/2006 6:55:33 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: devolve; ntnychik

Geronimo!


6 posted on 05/08/2006 6:57:18 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Alumni include President Bush, Sen. John Kerry ...,
... initiation rites that include confessing sexual secrets


7 posted on 05/08/2006 7:03:06 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: NormsRevenge

I am going to be really pissed off to know I have been placing cigars on top of an empty grave for the past forty years.


8 posted on 05/08/2006 7:17:21 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: NormsRevenge
Members swear an oath of secrecy about the group and its strange rituals, which includes devotion to the number "322" and initiation rites that include confessing sexual secrets and kissing a skull.

Okay, who leaked?

-PJ

9 posted on 05/08/2006 7:21:14 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: JennysCool

Uh... maybe it IS Bush's fault, but PRESCOTT BUSH. At least there's a popular tale going around northern Mexico that the skull is that of Pancho Villa (who's grave was desecrated, and head chopped off in 1926?) when -- according to the story -- a Yalie named Prescott Bush was wandering around Chihuahua. HOW an obscure undergraduate knew his son would head a spy agency, become president of the United States and his grandson would also be President -- and that all three would be members of the same secret Masonic Lodge is best left a mystery.

Gerinmo, huh?


10 posted on 05/08/2006 7:29:29 PM PDT by rpgdfmx
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To: NormsRevenge
"Harlyn Geronimo, the great grandson of Geronimo, said he has been looking for a lawyer to sue the U.S. Army..."

Dang, who stole the back cover of my Yellow Pages???
</sarcasm>

11 posted on 05/08/2006 7:46:19 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: NormsRevenge
My impression was that Geronimo was a Mescalero Apache, not a Chiricaua which is a different branch of the Apache tribe.



12 posted on 05/08/2006 7:52:01 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique; NormsRevenge
BTW, the most famous Chiricaua Apache was Cochise, who was played by an arab actor who'se name I can't recall right now in the TV series "Broken Arrow" he was married to Barbara Eden for some time.



13 posted on 05/08/2006 7:54:17 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique
Michael Ansara played Cochise. I don't know what nationality he is but I think he doesn't look Arab to me. Maybe Turkish or Armenian.

Anyone who got to sleep next to Barbara is a lucky son of a gun.

14 posted on 05/08/2006 7:59:54 PM PDT by yarddog
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15 posted on 05/08/2006 8:04:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: yarddog
That's the guy, *I happen to have a Lone Ranger DVD where he played, what else? An indian in one of the two full length films that Clayton Moore made. His bio says he was born in Syria. I met Barbara Eden last year as a result of a website ( Personalityphotos.com )I run. She's a neat person.



16 posted on 05/08/2006 8:08:02 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: yarddog

Michael Ansara - Born: 15-Apr-1922 - Birthplace: Syria


17 posted on 05/08/2006 8:09:12 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I am almost certain he has blue eyes which would be extemely odd for an Arab. Still being born in Syria would indicate some Arab ancestry.


18 posted on 05/08/2006 8:12:03 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Free ThinkerNY
He would turn out to be an Aries like me :-)



19 posted on 05/08/2006 8:12:18 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Political Junkie Too

"Okay, who leaked?"

Depends......;)


20 posted on 05/08/2006 8:14:11 PM PDT by exit82 (If Democrats can lead, then I'm Chuck Norris.)
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