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To: Ichneumon
Changing the subject so soon? And so abruptly?

I was not the one who raised claims of falsehood, and that is precisely the subject I was addressing. Be that as it may, natural selection is not a scientifically accessible set of terms, but an arbitrary, post hoc attribution. If one wishes to call it a "driving force" behind evolution I might not question his faith, but I am not inclined to call it science.

And I note that you haven't bothered to even attempt to substantiate your claim . . .

My claim is substantiated by that part of Western science which has understood the universe to be a product of intelligent design.

348 posted on 05/25/2006 12:14:06 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
My claim is substantiated by that part of Western science which has understood the universe to be a product of intelligent design.

Oh that part. The 'FesterWorld' part. I thought you might be referring to the other part...you know...the 'Factual' part. Never mind.

349 posted on 05/25/2006 12:18:17 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: Fester Chugabrew; Dimensio
[Changing the subject so soon? And so abruptly?]

I was not the one who raised claims of falsehood,

No, but you *were* the one who changed the subject when the issue of your false claims was raised.

and that is precisely the subject I was addressing.

...by transparently swapping targets instead of substantiating or retracting your false claim.

Be that as it may, natural selection is not a scientifically accessible set of terms, but an arbitrary, post hoc attribution.

"Be that as it may", you're wrong, but thanks for playing. Natural selection is scientifically detectable through DNA analysis, field studies, and direct observation.

If one wishes to call it a "driving force" behind evolution I might not question his faith, but I am not inclined to call it science.

That's because, frankly, you don't know what in the hell you're talking about, but you keep talking about it anyway.

[And I note that you haven't bothered to even attempt to substantiate your claim . . .]

My claim is substantiated by that part of Western science which has understood the universe to be a product of intelligent design.

And what "part" would that be? Hint: The fact that some scientists state their personal feelings about the matter doesn't make it "part of Western science". If you actually have some *science* which supports your claim, feel free to present it now. We'll wait. Hint #2: Alleged evidence *against* evolution is not evidence *for* intelligent design -- epistemology doesn't work that way.

351 posted on 05/25/2006 12:52:48 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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