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1 posted on 05/07/2006 10:00:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Its a shame. The comparison with Ruth really isn't valid because back then they didn't throw 90mph. Hank Aaron is the person who is really gonna be ripped off in this, and us.
51 posted on 05/07/2006 10:45:07 PM PDT by KoRn
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Bonds is almost certainly a juicer, but folks are just deluding themselves if they thing sports stars of the past avoided steroids because of higher moral standards or any love of the game. They didn't do it because they didn't know about them or they weren't available, but if you had offered the athletes of yesteryear better performance from a needle I'm guessing that most of them would have jumped at the chance to shoot up.


59 posted on 05/07/2006 10:57:41 PM PDT by elmer fudd
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In 1927, The Babe hit more dingers than the combined total of the players of each AL team.

He was a freak.

Greater than Bonds, Mays, and Mantle combined.

Lesson over.

82 posted on 05/07/2006 11:23:55 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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fakir.


85 posted on 05/07/2006 11:27:05 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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It don't mean nuten.


90 posted on 05/07/2006 11:42:03 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Is tractus pro pensio.)
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OK, if you wanna go there. Let's asterisk ALL the Hall-of-Famers who have been caught cheating. Former baseball commissioner Ford C. Frick is best remembered for being the instigator of the asterisk on Roger Maris' shattering of Babe Ruth's 60 HR season. That travesty stuck to Maris until the day he died, and was finally renounced thirty years later.

Frick's asterisk is nowadays viewed as an error made out of his personal friendship with Ruth (Frick was the Babe's ghost writer) and the baseball world's reverence of the Bambino. Bud Selig, whose only significant accomplishment as commissioner is the realignment of the divisions and the Wild Card, would be a fool to duplicate Frick's biggest mistake.

Selig has revealed himself to be a Frickin' idiot in the past; only Bud would have declared a tie in an All-Star game. But he can't be a total moron, and he should be able to figure out that if he comes down on Bonds, the question will be where in the heck he was while all of Bonds'(and other players') juicing was going on. IMHO, any suspension for rules infractions by Bonds is a tacit admission that he fell down on the job, and should resign.

I have yet to hear or read of a credible or fair way to determine which home runs Bonds, Giambi, Caminiti, Palmeiro or Canseco may have hit that were a result of use of steroids. Certainly nobody is suggesting that there have been any tainted homers in Bonds' past three seasons under mandatory random testing. Besides, singling Bonds out among all known juiced players is unfair not only to Bonds, it is congenitally unjust.

For better or for worse, unless something season-ending happens to Bonds very soon, he will be second on the all-time list when this season is over. He may be under indictment or he may be suspended, but he will be second only to Hank Aaron.

121 posted on 05/08/2006 1:13:50 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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124 posted on 05/08/2006 1:34:01 AM PDT by Roy Tucker
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Looks like Baseball is not going to do a thing about this. What a pathetic Commissioner! A weak, jelly-spined, risk-averse place-holder.


131 posted on 05/08/2006 4:23:50 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Rice 2008)
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barry bonds WHO?....


137 posted on 05/08/2006 6:07:38 AM PDT by BallandPowder
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Hard to decide whether to cheer the gigantic and awesome home run hit, or boo the guy who hit it.


145 posted on 05/08/2006 7:54:35 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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As far as I am concerned his and all hte others who are proven to take steroids should have their record removed from the books.


158 posted on 05/08/2006 8:33:09 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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Where can I buy a Barry Bonds bar?


166 posted on 05/08/2006 5:10:57 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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This means more as far as ranking power hitters for pure power.

At Bats per HR

1. Mark McGwire 10.61 R
2. Babe Ruth 11.76 L
3. Barry Bonds 12.91 L
4. Jim Thome 13.77 L
5. Manny Ramirez 14.08 R
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34. Hank Aaron 16.38 R

Interestingly, No. 33 is Jim Gentile. He is not even in the Hall of Fame. Hank Aaron was a great player and hitter with a really long, 23 season career. McGwire* and Bonds* don't count. Ruth in the greatest power hitter.


176 posted on 05/08/2006 8:30:57 PM PDT by okiecon
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181 posted on 05/10/2006 12:11:32 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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