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Redmond Police Department Faces $1 Million Suit [woman in hypoglycemic crisis tasered by police]
KOMO 4 News ^ | 4/7/06 | KOMO Staff

Posted on 05/07/2006 12:43:59 PM PDT by seowulf

REDMOND - The Redmond Police Department is facing a $1 million lawsuit after a woman says an officer used his Taser on her during a medical emergency.

Video from the police car camera shows that something was wrong with Leila Fuchs last July when police pulled her out of her car. For nearly 10 minutes when officers first pulled up, they say she remained unresponsive.

"She's just gotten into this collision at Redmond Way and 145th -- small accident," said defense attorney James Egan.

But he says it's the decisions an officer made when Fuchs wouldn't unlock her door that has them suing the department.

Egan says his client was suffering from a diabetic episode when medics tried to get her attention.

"So the medic brings a window hammer here," Egan says, pointing to the video.

Then, Egan says an officer took matters into his own hands.

"He bashed in the passenger side window, opened the door, and immediately ordered her to open her driver side door," Egan said. "Even according to (the officer), she was dazed, catatonic, and non-responsive. At that point, he pulls his Taser out, and says if she doesn't open it, he will shoot her."

Egan says the officer used his gun and hit Fuchs with 50,000 volts of electricity.

"He didn't shoot her for one second," Egan said. "He shot her for the full five seconds… and caused her to stiffen and scream, according to his police report as this happened, and here she was suffering a medical emergency."

Police reports claim officers could initially smell the odor of alcohol in the car, but after they got Fuchs out and did a breath test, they determined there was no trace of alcohol found.

"He jumped the gun... literally," Egan said. "And that's when he tried to electrocute someone he apparently thought was intoxicated."

Calls to the Redmond Police about the video and the lawsuit were not immediately returned Saturday evening. Police records, though, back up the fact that the Taser was used and that Fuchs did not have any traces of alcohol in her system.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: badcopnodonut; biteback; diabetes; donutwatch; govwatch; jackbootedthugs; jbt; libertarians; police; redmond; taser; washington
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To: FreedomCalls

That sounds good, everybody over 50 off the road... no more "old, gray and in the way."

(just kiddin')


181 posted on 05/07/2006 5:44:07 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: robertpaulsen
As opposed to what, shooting them with a gun?

How about seeing if they need assistance first? I can't believe that you think shooting someone for not responding to a verbal command is acceptable. What did police do before there were tasers? They damn well didn't go around shooting anyone who was "nonresponsive".

182 posted on 05/07/2006 5:46:34 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: robertpaulsen
You're a great Monday morning quarterback. How was the cop supposed to know she wasn't drunk, on drugs, suicidal, or just plain whack-o?

You could say the same about an random person on the street, but that is no reason to go around randomly tasering people.

183 posted on 05/07/2006 5:48:32 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Mad Dawg
The nice response: Then shouldn't we reconsider giving driver's licenses to people with diabetes?

More people are killed each year from dorvers who have heart attacks or stroke while at the wheel than from drivers having an incident of diabetic hypoglycemia. So should we reconsider giving drivers licenses to those over age 50 since they are at greater risk of having a heart attack or a stroke?

184 posted on 05/07/2006 5:51:10 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Mad Dawg
The nice response: Then shouldn't we reconsider giving driver's licenses to people with diabetes?

(Corrected spelling): More people are killed each year from drivers who have heart attacks or stroke while at the wheel than from drivers having an incident of diabetic hypoglycemia. So should we reconsider giving drivers licenses to those over age 50 since they are at greater risk of having a heart attack or a stroke?

185 posted on 05/07/2006 5:51:48 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: ContraryMary
So he electrocutes her?

"Electrocute?" So when I use a baton I'm "beating to death", when I touch somebody I'm "Killing with my bare hands"? Tasers "shock". They don't "electrocute". Outside of this thread I have never heard "electrocute" to mean anything other than "kill using electricity".

186 posted on 05/07/2006 5:54:17 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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To: robertpaulsen
She's driving impaired, she causes the accident, she's unresponsive, she gets tasered and it's the cop's fault?

Yes! She was just in an accident. Should the policeman on the scene check a person who is a nonresponsive accident victim to see if they need medical help first or should he taser them for "not responding" to his commands? Maybe she had a serious head injury. Should that person be tasered?

187 posted on 05/07/2006 5:55:43 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Cap'n Crunch
The guy with low blood sugar hauls off and punches you in the face.

Notice how you have changed the circumstances from a nonresponsive lady sitting behind the wheel of her car after being in an accident to that of an aggressive guy who punches you in the face. She didn't punch anyone. She was a nonresponsive accident victim still in her car in need of medical help.

188 posted on 05/07/2006 5:58:55 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
I like "dorvers" better.

It would depend on how much greater then risk was, wouldn't it?

Do you think someone who suffers with grand mal epilepsy should be allowed to drive? Heck, I'm sure some people can make it home with a blood alcohol of 1.6%. It seems to me most people agree that those with a heightened possibility of having their driving ability impaired should have their licenses pulled.

The quesiton becomes what amount of "heightening" is enough to trigger that response. Maybe being 50 years old isn't enough, but maybe being 50 years old with arrhythmia, high blood pressure, significant moribid obesity and lousy cholesterol numbers is enough. In any event it's the kind of question that will require gradation, subtlety, things which Free Republic does not seem able to deal with.

189 posted on 05/07/2006 6:01:19 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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To: seowulf
Even if she was on alcohol, what the heck benefit is tasering a drunk supposed to do? This cop needs to be kicked off the force ... he was power drunk and totally out of control.
190 posted on 05/07/2006 6:01:28 PM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: robertpaulsen
She could have just killed her children and was suicidal.

ANYONE walking the street could meet that criteria. Does that justify tasering everyone you come into contact with?

191 posted on 05/07/2006 6:02:35 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: robertpaulsen
The cop should just ignore procedure and help the poor woman.

God forbid the cops should actually help someone. /sarcasm

192 posted on 05/07/2006 6:03:41 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: llevrok
The issue of concern to me is that this will be used as a means to ban tasers.

Hope not, Taser has been a great stock investment ... nothing wrong with the weapon, or the market for the weapon. In this case, we just have a stupid cop, using it in an inappropriate situation, and even if the situation was what he thought it was, it would still have been inappropriate. Stupid cop.

193 posted on 05/07/2006 6:05:21 PM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: robertpaulsen
There are risks, and there are avoidable risks. A diabetic who is having problems is an avoidable risk. There is no excuse for them being behind the wheel until the problem is corrected. None. If you're saying that this is a real nationwide problem with diabetics, then I am in favor of denying them driving licenses altogether.

Then we will have to deny licenses to all those over age 50 because of the risk of stroke/heart attack while behind the wheel.

194 posted on 05/07/2006 6:05:44 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: seowulf

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195 posted on 05/07/2006 6:07:35 PM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: robertpaulsen
Now, if you're also saying that this goes on all the time with people with heart disease, or over 65, or under 18, then, of course, they should be prohibited from driving.

It does. So do you want to deny ALL those licenses as well? Is that what you're saying?

196 posted on 05/07/2006 6:08:23 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Mad Dawg
Members of this forum who are eager to convict the cop on the basis of this story make me a little anxious.

A partial reason for that is that while the cops are here to protect me from a bad guy, who is here to protect me from a bad cop?

197 posted on 05/07/2006 6:09:58 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Mad Dawg
So I GREATLY appeciate the citizen who stays in the car, lets me see his hands and works with me.

Even after an accident with the victim sitting behind the wheel with a possibly serious head injury? Do you seriously expect an accident victim to be fully in control of his/her senses right after a crash?

198 posted on 05/07/2006 6:12:58 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Cap'n Crunch
In my opinion, this is a lawyer looking for money

Fortunately he found a cooperative cop.

Now the city can decide if they want to continue paying huge amounts for this kind of publicity or change their policy.

The reason that these lawsuits are so successful is the police activity itself. You can't idiot proof a screwup, you only can get rid of one and make it as painful to the screwup as possible. Eventually policy will reflect that.

Public perception and statistical fact are that women are almost never a serious threat to a cop. "I vas only followink orders" won't help either.

Citizens and jurors will think: if I am sick or injured, do I want help from this highly paid cop who purports to be a professional in identifying the difference between criminal acts and medical emergencies?

Dead meat.

199 posted on 05/07/2006 6:14:45 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The Panama canal should be in the south end of Texas.)
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To: Mad Dawg
I feel compelled to post again. I am an old driver. I have driven for some 50+ years with no accidents in the past 40 years. I do not see well at night. Hence, I don't drive at night. I am a responsible individual. The state does not have to control when I can drive or not drive.

I know several individuals that have diabetes. I never once worried about their driving because they are responsible individuals. They may use my car anytime.

The state can keep its snout out of those areas of decision making.

Now will there be persons that don't exercise good judgment? You can make book on it. Do you want the state to set up a procedure to insure that they don't? The opportunity to exercise bad judgment is a characteristic of Freedom. There will always be a small percentage that will seduce the canine. Lets keep it as low as commensurate with a free society.
200 posted on 05/07/2006 6:15:41 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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