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To: traviskicks

a conservative who's not a social conservative is no conservative at all.

Abortion is ending. Contraception will be ended eventually.


39 posted on 05/07/2006 4:08:40 PM PDT by balch3
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To: balch3

a conservative who's not a social conservative is no conservative at all
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Say it loud and say it proud.


43 posted on 05/07/2006 4:10:50 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: balch3
>>a conservative who's not a social conservative is no conservative at all.

Abortion is ending. Contraception will be ended eventually.<<

Abortion is wrong - ending the life of another who has the potential for a long full life and no way to defend themselves.

The government regulating general private conduct is different - the government only has (or at least is supposed to have) those powers the people have given it voluntarily. Expanding government scope and power to regulate intimate details of life isn't conservative.

Now, I would never say that means you can't be a conservative but it certainly means you hold a non-conservative position.
45 posted on 05/07/2006 4:16:35 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: balch3
Contraception will be ended eventually.

Yep, just burn a few contraceptors at the stake. Better pass gun control laws first, though. Lots of folks will not come quietly. (No pun intended, maybe).

50 posted on 05/07/2006 4:24:33 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: balch3

One can be a social Conservative and be a libertarian (small l, like I am, more or less), in fact, I think many are, which makes it all the more ironic that they are accused of being 'pornography lovers' and 'drug users' etc... Just like liberals accuse conservatives of being 'cruel hearted' and 'greedy'... :)

However, sociallly conservative libertarians understand that when government is used to attempt to achieve the goals of social conservatism, the end results are the opposite of their intentions. Instead of more morality, there is now less morality. The people will, in large part, voluntarily choose morality if they are just left alone.

Just like liberals and their economic 'social programs', Big Government Social Conservates have 'good intentions', whatever those are worth, but simply, IMO, don't understand history, the nature of government, or have enough respect for liberty:

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
- CA Justice Janice Rogers Brown


95 posted on 05/07/2006 5:49:19 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/gasoline_and_government.htm)
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To: balch3

Jawohl, mein Fuhrer. Thanks for the advance notice.


117 posted on 05/08/2006 5:17:31 AM PDT by linda_22003
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