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1 posted on 05/06/2006 4:53:40 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
His compassionate conservatism shares with Nixon's moderate Republicanism a core faith that not only can the government love you, but it should spend money to prove its love.

Ain't that the truth. (and the problem)

2 posted on 05/06/2006 4:57:04 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: neverdem

Bush's low poll numbers come from conservative disappointment in a number of his positions. Democrat hatred of him has been unchanged since his first day in office, a solid wall of noise that never varies, neither more nor less, and consequently can be safely ignored.

Democrats may thrill to his low numbers, but they shouldn't. They gain nothing from the fact that conservatives are mad at him. Conservatives are mad because he's too much like them, too willing to compromise with them, too many of his values align too easily with them. Conservative anger will not translate into a single vote for their side.

We want a conservative who will fight, who will spit in their eyes. Bush is never stronger than on those rare occasions when he's up for a fight. He wins almost every time. Its the rest of the time, when he's trying to woo the other side, when he's trying to split the difference with them, that his numbers fall to the point of disappearing.

So let that be a lesson to anyone planning to succeed Bush in the White House. I want bold. I want someone who is conservative, who understands conservative principle and isn't afraid to explain it and defend it. I want someone who isn't afraid of a fight; we'll be there with you, don't worry.

I want bold.


3 posted on 05/06/2006 5:04:08 PM PDT by marron
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To: neverdem
You missed one Jonah.

>>>>Bush rejects limited government and many of the philosophical assumptions that underlie that position. He favors instead strong BIG government.

Nothing wrong with favoring a strong government. Just cut the overall expectations down to size.

4 posted on 05/06/2006 5:04:33 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: neverdem

Here is a story I remember from decades ago. It pertains to Nixon when he got started in politics.

He said it didn 't matter. He could be a Democrat or Republican.

Now go back in time. California was probably MORE Republican, then. Hence Nixon became a Republican.

But give Nixon credit. He was willing to confront totalitarianism; then called "communism." His democrat opponents were less willing to.

Likewise Bush today seems willing to confront islam's worst side. His opponents seem less willing.

Nixon led a fascinating life. Like him or hate him, he was "In the Arena."


6 posted on 05/06/2006 5:06:52 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: neverdem
PBS is on board... local PBS station is screening "All The Presidents Men" right now. They don't usually show movies in Saturday prime time.

All the President's Men 8:00 PM, 2 hrs 30 min Sat 05/06/2006 WPTD 16 Other/Drama PG, Strong Language, English, 1976 Alan J. Pakula's account of the Watergate scandal as uncovered by Bob Woodward (Robert Redford) and Carl Bernstein (Dustin Hoffman). Jason Robards (Best Supporting Actor), Martin Balsam, Jack Warden, Hal Holbrook, Jane Alexander. Oscar-winning script by William Goldman, who adapted Woodward and Bernstein's book. Cast & Credits: Robert Redford, Dustin Hoffman, Jason Robards, Jack Warden, Martin Balsam

7 posted on 05/06/2006 5:08:59 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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Yawn ... yet another calculated attempt to disenchant the base. This will increase in fervor as we get closer to November.


10 posted on 05/06/2006 5:13:04 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: neverdem

Ah, Jonah...another Bot falls by the wayside. Have you taken down your altar yet?


14 posted on 05/06/2006 5:19:58 PM PDT by jammer
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To: neverdem
Perhaps this unnoticed fact explains part of Bush's falling poll numbers more than most observers are willing to admit.

And perhaps Johah is twisting history to try to make a point.

15 posted on 05/06/2006 5:22:01 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We must act today in order to preserve tomorrow......R.R)
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To: neverdem
The modern conservative movement, from Goldwater to Reagan, was formed as a backlash against Nixonism. Today, Reaganite conservatives make up a majority of the Republican party.

Is that really true? Reagan and Reaganism are the ideal type, but Nixon and Bush are closer to the reality. To some extent that was even true during the Reagan administration. The administration and the party fell short of what the ideologists and Reagan himself wanted.

If ideology is all you do, it's not so hard to be ideologically pure and consistent. Bush comes out of 1) his father's government world, and 2) the business environment, so it's natural that he isn't as staunchly in favor of small government as Jonah is.

24 posted on 05/06/2006 5:32:46 PM PDT by x
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To: neverdem
Goldberg is either a very poor student of history or he had a memory lapse of the problems President Reagan had during his second term when the MSM and Donner Party Division of the Republican Party went after President Reagan.


25 posted on 05/06/2006 5:33:22 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: neverdem

Girly Boy Goldberg, also, fired Ann Coulter for her comments about his Islamic buddies after 9/11.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/537772/posts

Fired Conservative Columnist Anne Coulter Getting 'Great Publicity'
CNS News ^ | 10/2/01


Posted on 10/02/2001 9:14:04 AM PDT by truthandlife


Conservative columnist Ann Coulter, fired from her contributing editor perch at the National Review Online, blames it on free-speech hysteria in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks. In a recent online column, Coulter opined that the United States should respond forcefully to the terrorist attacks: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity," she said. The comment provoked an uproar, and the National Review Online subsequently refused to run another Coulter piece in which she referred to "swarthy males." When Coulter complained, she was fired. Tuesday's Washington Post quotes Coulter as saying she doesn't need friends like that. "Every once in awhile they'll throw one of their people to the wolves to get good press in left-wing publications," she told the newspaper. National Review Online Editor Jonah Goldberg told the Post, "We didn't feel we wanted to be associated with the comments expressed in those two columns." Coulter told the Washington Post she's getting great publicity as a result of the flap.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/537772/posts


31 posted on 05/06/2006 5:37:09 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: neverdem

Don't badmouth President Nixon by comparing him th gw.


32 posted on 05/06/2006 5:38:55 PM PDT by devane617 (The truth, not politics, is right for our beautiful America.)
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To: neverdem
George W. Bush has his views of what he believes is good for the country, polls are not going change them. I would like to change his view on immigration. I don't think he can be greatly persuaded to change alot by any group. He is not poll driven like some of our past presidents were. On the other hand Nixon was very concerned about what people though of him.
33 posted on 05/06/2006 5:40:30 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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"But simply because the left despises you doesn't mean you're particularly right-wing. If LBJ were alive, you could ask him about this."

How true! My impression of LBJ was that he was some sort of right-winger -- fascist even. (Not surprising, considering that most of what Canadians know about U.S. politics came from network TV news, the NY Times and their ilk, and the CBC.) Years later, I discovered his domestic policy record -- his Great Society programs would have put him on the far left; even in Canada. Signing the Civil Rights Act would have gotten him sainted in ordinary times (by both political wings).

When I tell people that the left eats its own; I use LBJ as an example. Most people simply refuse to believe it.

I hope the U.S. right wing isn't feeling cannibalistic these days.
40 posted on 05/06/2006 5:45:46 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: neverdem

I supported GWB because after the stink of the Clinton years this country desperately needed a good and decent man in the White House, regardless of his political orientation. Bush was that man; and though he has been conservative enough in some regards, in others he has been sadly lacking. I'll vote for him again if it's a choice between him and a liberal Democrat, and don't try to tell me there's no difference between the two.


50 posted on 05/06/2006 5:56:19 PM PDT by Agnes Heep (Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster)
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Bush has his problems ... but truth is, he is closer to Reagan than to Nixon.

While Reagan looks like the perfect President through the soft lens of history ... I suspect if there had been a Free Republic back then, we'd be having these same arguments about him.

Spending too much, retreating from Lebanon, granting amnesty to illegals, etc.....

53 posted on 05/06/2006 5:58:20 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: neverdem

I've been comparing Bush to Nixon for weeks, now. I'm glad Goldberg has given the obvious Bush-big-government-Nixon similarities more visibility to minimize the blasphemous Reagan comparisons.


66 posted on 05/06/2006 6:25:40 PM PDT by Nephi (A vote for amnesty is a vote to impeach George W. Nixon)
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To: neverdem
Lesson from all this: don't elect, don't listen to people on name recognition only!

Patches Kennedy, Lisa Minelli (pleeze!), the Nelsons, Lisa Marie.

Thank goodness Liberace didn't produce any offspring or we might have a Senator Liberace, Jr. now!

98 posted on 05/06/2006 7:07:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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Karl Rove is part of the problem in the way he marginalizes the conservative base of the Republican party just to get more votes from the "moderates". Rove came up with "compassionate conservative" and labels conservatives as "extreme" and "fringers". And Karl Rove has been out and about working on getting "Republicans" elected.

This explains everything.

116 posted on 05/06/2006 7:43:31 PM PDT by manwiththehands (No, usted no puede!)
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Those who want to "punish the Republicans and President Bush" by voting third party, staying home, or voting Dem in 2006 and 2008, better read THIS, carefully and decide, whether do they really want to responsible for all that the Dems are planning and WILL do, if they get back into power.

Confident Democrats Lay Out Agenda

"Democratic leaders, increasingly confident they will seize control of the House in November, are laying plans for a legislative blitz during their first week in power that would raise the minimum wage, roll back parts of the Republican prescription drug law, implement homeland security measures and reinstate lapsed budget deficit controls.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) said in an interview last week that a Democratic House would launch a series of investigations of the Bush administration, beginning with the White House's first-term energy task force and probably including the use of intelligence in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. Pelosi denied Republican allegations that a Democratic House would move quickly to impeach President Bush. "

118 posted on 05/06/2006 8:35:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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