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Negroponte's Porter ~ More on the CIA's departing Porter Goss
Slate ^ | Saturday, May 6, 2006, at 6:15 AM ET | Michael Brus

Posted on 05/06/2006 1:10:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Sacajaweau

A real sickening love feast ah.


21 posted on 05/06/2006 4:38:01 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Laverne

The more likely scenario. Time will tell.


22 posted on 05/06/2006 4:38:17 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: txrangerette

Besides getting the job done, I think Rove wants Goss for something. Rove is in full swing and exactly where he wants to be.


23 posted on 05/06/2006 4:46:06 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: floriduh voter

Bull...Senator Pat Roberts was interviewed about Goss and ask a similar question and he said you'd have to know Porter he's just not like that in the least. I'll trust the senator on that one. ;o)


24 posted on 05/06/2006 4:48:48 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: floriduh voter
From the same source:

CIA boss Goss parts Company
Editorials

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Abruptly, Porter Goss, the nation's No. 1 spymaster, is gone - under circumstances that are murky, but that, per emerging reports, suggest a lapse of judgment. Per the emerging reports, it appears the CIA chief might have kept company of dubious nature.

The reports are that the FBI is probing whether Goss and agency Executive Director Dusty Foggo played poker with a defense contractor who was named as bribing California Rep. Duke Cunningham in a case aswirl with money and prostitutes. The contractor, a pal of Foggo's, wouldn't be the sort you'd want hosting your top spy.

Perhaps there's nothing to it, or perhaps Goss had no idea with whom he was gambling. If so, call that an intel failure. Which is what he was brought into a disarrayed CIA to fix, and by some accounts he has been not unsuccessful. His boss, John Negroponte, recently assured Time magazine that the agency is in much better shape than it was when Goss came in less than two years ago.

From the start, he had his hands full. His authority was truncated by a reorganization of the U.S. intelligence apparatus; there was no chance he was going to get along with veteran careerists who didn't care for his boat-rocking and who started walking out the door; he got banged dizzy by the Valerie Plame and secret-flights and Mary McCarthy affairs. And we have to suspect he didn't endear himself to his commander in chief when he publicly grumbled that he had to spend five hours a day preparing reports for President Bush.

Accepting the resignation, Bush made a point of noting the five-year reform plan Goss put into place remained on course and that a new CIA chief will hew to it. Why did Goss quit? Or, as the case may be, get pushed off the sled? We're following those emerging reports. What we do know is that at present nobody's in charge at the CIA.


25 posted on 05/06/2006 5:03:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Sabatier

"Dilbert:CIA".

I think you're on to something.


26 posted on 05/06/2006 5:22:51 PM PDT by RBroadfoot
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To: All
H/t to Michelle Malkin for this from Thomas Joscelyn:

Goss Resigns ~~~It probably has something to do with this (From Time Magazine):

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But now, in a little noticed move, Negroponte is signaling that he is moving still more responsibility from the CIA to his own office, including control over the analysis of terrorist groups and threats.

27 posted on 05/06/2006 7:33:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All; Marine_Uncle; Hildy; shield
Direct link to the Time article:

The Incredible Shrinking CIA

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In a speech in San Antonio last week, Negroponte's top deputy, Michael Hayden, declared that an office largely under Negroponte's control — the National Counterterrorism Center, or NCTC — was now in charge of dictating the role other agencies will play in terror analysis. Hayden said too many agencies were in the analysis business and that the NCTC, like a team captain, " will make these calls for the entire IC [intelligence community]." This may seem like bureaucratic minutiae, but it reflects an important struggle over a key aspect of American intelligence. Even though some diminishment of the CIA was all but guaranteed by the passage of the DNI law 18 months ago, each new detail of the Negroponte's implementation has been watched for how much it may curtail the power of the once-supreme CIA.

28 posted on 05/06/2006 7:45:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Around a dozen senior agency officials either resigned in protest or asked for reassignment under Goss' leadership.

This is supposed to be a criticism? It's a badge of honor.

29 posted on 05/06/2006 7:47:28 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

See this was planned long before the announcement on Friday, IMHO.


30 posted on 05/06/2006 7:50:05 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

these are the people Goss was put there to root out - it sounds like he was doing his job.

so why did he stop? and stop so abruptly that they barely had time to put together the exit pat on the back speech on a Friday afternoon? certainly, he couldn't have rooted all of them out in just 18 months?


31 posted on 05/06/2006 7:50:39 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Good article (the incredible shrinking CIA). One could be left with the impression, there are a number of good minds slowly making changes that will benifit our over all intellegience capabilities, despite the ongoing pissing and moaning from some, including of course former CIA folks always popping up on the alphabet channels.
As the dust settles down, each agency should have a clearly defined mission, and know just how far it can move to the edges before being asked to stop. And of course, surely there will be better intra-agency interface where required, where in the past the CIA for one was to aloft. Now they will have to work with other intel agencies where it makes sense to do so. I sense GWB has given them all a commission. And that is get it right this time around. No more screwing off.
32 posted on 05/06/2006 8:24:35 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

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33 posted on 05/06/2006 8:31:35 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Well, damn,.... and I think the real reason is that Goss had done his job and the CIA was shrinking as designed by the Congress....why stick around.,....


34 posted on 05/06/2006 8:40:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Well the question for the Sunday Talk shows is whether the Leftie circle jerk will continue....I think I know the answer....

Maybe I should post the Time article .... Excerpted of course .... on its own thread....

35 posted on 05/06/2006 8:43:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: shield

Sounds like Negroponte wanted it....


36 posted on 05/06/2006 8:45:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think this has always been the plan. Besides, nothing in yrs has come out of the CIA but crap. This agency works to undermine a President. Give me a break...it needs to be busted up...big time.


37 posted on 05/06/2006 8:47:10 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: shield
This sounds good to me - I just hope that the DOJ is working up some real prosecutions of the rogues - I sure don't want it to end with just some scumbags slipping away into retirement and/or juicy consultancy contracts!

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"Point of clarity that will be coming out in the days and weeks to come, Mary (Loose Lips) McCarthy wasn't just "a" leaker - she was in fact the Queen Bee leaker from which all the little worker bees delivered their 'honey'.

So do you get it now? Goss killed the Queen - mission accompished.
By the way, while Priest laments on an "agency in turmoil", I actually hear that far more in the agency are happy that Goss came to town and killed off the hive.

"I liked his leadership. .....The tired lifers that couldn't keep their puss off a phone receiver to the media.....we're a intelligence agency, not the Democratic National Committee...."

All this mudslinging on Goss is to be expected. He will be dragged through the mud and made to look like a thug and a malcontent and it's "good riddance". But again more of the real thugs and malcontents cannot contain themselves from taking a swipe......

38 posted on 05/06/2006 8:53:17 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Enchante

It does...


39 posted on 05/06/2006 9:00:29 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Grampa Dave
[ Goss was asking the right question to root out the traitors. Are you a democrat? ]

The same question should be asked every officer in the military.. especially flag officers..

40 posted on 05/06/2006 9:00:43 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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