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Current Poll - 13% of members will turn it over to the rats????

Posted on 05/06/2006 9:51:50 AM PDT by Sonora

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To: moehoward

Maybe you can rally around Tancredo, but he has virtually zero chance at the national level. I'd like to be proven wrong but I think that conservatives will win by taking the incremental path. And I think we are steadily becoming more conservative as a country. Things take time.


81 posted on 05/06/2006 10:25:55 AM PDT by RobFromGa (In decline, the Driveby Media is thrashing about like dinosaurs caught in the tar pits.)
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To: ARCADIA

My point exactly.


82 posted on 05/06/2006 10:27:14 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Sonora

I voted for "work harder to get conservatives elected," since that doesn't commit anyone to vote for some of the RINOs now in the Senate. And I agree that, in general, Republicans are better than Democrats.

BUT . . . someone needs to send these jerks a messages. If they want to stay in power, they had better start tending to their base. And they had better stop betraying their country through selfish greed.

I've rarely been a third-party voter myself. But the Republicans need to get the word that if they don't straighten out, plenty of people will stay home, and they will lose. There's no way that hillary can get herself elected on her own merits, but the Republicans can certainly kick it away, and they seem to be trying very hard to do it.

Bush got elected last time because tens of millions of extra people turned out to vote. And he held congress for the last three elections for the same reason. Much of that good will is now gone. It's not really up to us. Those millions will stay home, regardless of what we decide to do, unless Bush, Frist, and jerks like Lincoln Chaffee straighten out. Why the hell did Bush allow Chaffee to vote down his last energy proposal? He has the power to cut him off at the knees for doing that kind of thing, and he should be doing it.


83 posted on 05/06/2006 10:27:38 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: al_again
There is only one way to get conservatives back in charge - and that is to fire Republicans!

So have you looked at the success rate of 3rd party candidates ? I think it is something like 0.0001%

NOW HERE THIS, FIRING REPUBLICANS MEANS ELECTING DEMOCRATS

84 posted on 05/06/2006 10:28:01 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Sonora
So far, 13% of members and 18%+ of participants in this poll say - turn it over to the rats. What's with that? I cannot believe that 13% of those posting here are so stupid or angry with what is happening that they would turn to the rats for the way back to perfect. Now, 13% will result in a winning vote, in a lot of cases.

I can believe it. There's been a ton of troll activity here lately. Every thread that even mentions President Bush becomes a Bush bashing festival.

85 posted on 05/06/2006 10:28:23 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: EternalVigilance
There are some "true conservatives" out there we can support. Indeed there are, especially for Congress. There is a solid conservative majority in the House that are well worth supporting with our money, our time and our energy. And they're up every two years.

Right. They passed H.R. 4437 for heaven's sake. That seemed pretty conservative.

86 posted on 05/06/2006 10:29:27 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: Sonora
When will the scorched earth types realize the problem isn't the Dems or RINOs, it's us!

We can complain forever about why we can't win primary battles, but in the end we must work harder in the market place of ideas to attract a majority.

There is a tipping point to the left where we cannot recover ever due to increasing voter fraud, redistricting, dirty tricks, etc. Not voting, or voting in the leftest will allow this tragedy.

Whining doesn't win elections.
87 posted on 05/06/2006 10:30:05 AM PDT by Willgamer (Rex Lex or Lex Rex?)
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To: Sonora
In the poll I voted for the option of "working harder to get conservatives elected". That still doesn't mean voting Republican, or voting for Rats. I'll likely vote my beliefs and go 3rd party. I no longer associate the Republican Party with conservatism, and the Rats are not an option for me.
88 posted on 05/06/2006 10:30:14 AM PDT by KoRn
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To: YaYa123
The our President needs to feel the fear and close the borders. Announce that a wall is going to be built and will be finished within a year. We built the dang 3,000 mile transcontinential railway with nearly primative tools a hundred years ago, why can't we build a 2,000 mile fence, today?


89 posted on 05/06/2006 10:31:00 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Join FR Team 36120 at http://folding.stanford.edu {Protein Folding Project})
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To: Sonora
[ Anyway, I guess that there is no compromising for some people - just dig a hole and live there while the rats are in charge. I'm so disappointed. ]

What some say they will do and what they will do in the voteing booth is not the same.. After we are just chatting(here).. Thats why POLLS are nonsense.. always.. and are usually wrong.. Except the ones that appear to be correct upon 20/20 hindsight..

The odds that any (except for a few) on free republic would EVER vote for a democrat is remote.. No doubt there are ringers from various(malevalent) sources on Free republic.. including the White House.. Free republic is a force of nature.. human nature..

90 posted on 05/06/2006 10:31:36 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: JimSEA
Yeah, I didn't say I like the current state of affairs, just that I am not suicidal.

DITTO

91 posted on 05/06/2006 10:31:39 AM PDT by A message
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To: CindyDawg
I passed on it.

So did I!

I thought the wording was a bit offensive by trying to make you feel like a fool if you didn't vote for the Republicians who abandon their base.

92 posted on 05/06/2006 10:33:58 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (.....once there was a way to get back homeward.)
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To: Sonora

Thank you, Sonora, for posting some much needed commonsense!!


93 posted on 05/06/2006 10:34:30 AM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: Sonora
I cannot believe that 13% of those posting here are so stupid or angry...

Believe it!

An enemy isn't nearly as offensive as a compatriot that betrays you, or tells themself "where's he gonna go?"

"Spite" may not make sense...but it does happen.

94 posted on 05/06/2006 10:34:36 AM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: COEXERJ145
I don't want to see Bush impeached and I am not a DU troll. I want to see our country's borders protected, the President to veto some dang thing, and to have spending controlled. I want to see real conservatism.

So, I guess your premise is wrong.

95 posted on 05/06/2006 10:34:38 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Join FR Team 36120 at http://folding.stanford.edu {Protein Folding Project})
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To: rrrod
Watching today Republicans cave in, whine and totally ignore the conservatives leads me to agree with you. If we don't get new blood in there the Rs will continue to seel us out!

Republicans are on the verge of throwing away control of Congress and returning to a status of little significance.

They enjoyed that position for nearly 40 years.

To remain in control all they needed was spine.....they had the agenda.

While our brave soldiers fight and kill fanatical terrorist by the hundreds in foreign lands.......

our "brave" Republican Congress cowers from queers, trembles in fear of being called names by Democrats and is terrified of dissapointing big business and invaders from south of the border......

More and more....it's embarrassing to be a grass-roots Republican.

Reagan said that he didn't leave the Democrat Party......it left him.

I know how he felt!!

96 posted on 05/06/2006 10:35:11 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I'm a proud GRINGO......is Bill Clinton still the president?...Seems that way!)
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To: pgkdan
Every thread that even mentions President Bush becomes a Bush bashing festival.

You're exactly right and there's no excuse for it. At least the higher ups have noticed and been booting some of the worst offenders.

97 posted on 05/06/2006 10:35:13 AM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: Sonora
I don't do polls of any kind.

I'll never ever vote for a Democrat as long as I live, and I'll do all that I can to convince others of that imperative.

Zell Miller is a great guy but he's wrong on legitimizing that despicable party.

Still, the Republicans are a disaster since they gained control. So then I continue with the belief that incumbency is a disaster for all of us.
98 posted on 05/06/2006 10:35:47 AM PDT by Radix (Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
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To: Sonora
The nation survived for more than a few decades under the Democrats. Although the Dems are now more socialist than anything else, our country can probably survive another decade or so under them. There is little doubt the Republicans are in big trouble.

Muleteam1


99 posted on 05/06/2006 10:35:58 AM PDT by Muleteam1
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To: pgkdan

I am still a voter for the "R"...guys/gals.....and
I live near the Cunningham area....this guy has done
more to pull our guys d=own than anybody....Here is s
thought to keep in mind..if you follow some of
the history of voters.....Voters don't like it when
the Prsident's party ignores him during an election
year, as we have now....Harry Truman in '48..was down
and out in the polls..his fellow Dems deserted him..he went out and gave 'em all hell...he was reelected but
lota of his party were not??? Stick with the
President...and stick together..who the hell wants
Pelosi and those nitwits in power???? Jake


100 posted on 05/06/2006 10:36:09 AM PDT by sanjacjake
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