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Current Poll - 13% of members will turn it over to the rats????

Posted on 05/06/2006 9:51:50 AM PDT by Sonora

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To: nopardons
Everything you posted is 100% dead on correct.

I've asked myself many times the 'what if' question. How different our world of today would be if Clintoon had treated them as terrorist and not a police matter.

681 posted on 05/06/2006 8:22:52 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: texastoo
The Grand Old Party is also referred to as "country club republicans". The minority, Rockefeller Republicans, control the money of the GOP. Many are wealthy, not just rich, but wealthy. I shutter to think who the GOP presidential nominee will be.

Tancredo would get mine but the RNC will see to it he never gets the chance. Look for an anointed to be pushed pretty soon as {the most electable one} the term some are so fond of. I've seen way too much manipulation going on to think the Rockies are gonna allow anything but their pick to get serious consideration. Choices given are likely Allen, McCain, or possibly Rudi to choose from.

682 posted on 05/06/2006 8:23:12 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: texastoo

I think you need to reread your history


683 posted on 05/06/2006 8:25:12 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: pbrown

I was directly accused of being one awhile ago, now we're just lumped in with "those border crazies" who follow Buchanan. If that makes them feel better about wanting the border open, I can't help that. : )


684 posted on 05/06/2006 8:25:19 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: pbrown
Thanks...it is. Sadly, few people remember recent history; so I post it.

The "WHAT IFS" are what REALLY hurt! And imagining what WOULD have happened ( Clinton WOULD have lost !), if only enough people hadn't be stupid enough to vote for Perot or stayed home, in '93, will just make you sick. It's best not to dwell on that and just try to make sure that the damned Dems don't EVER, in our lifetime, get back into power.

685 posted on 05/06/2006 8:28:26 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: SouthTexas
but I will NOT vote for a liberal.

Fine, don't. But don't close your mind to the easy way of 'us vs. them' either. Write in a name if there's not another candidate or if the candidates on the ballot don't agree with your views. To do otherwise, voting the R so the D doesn't win, is voting against a party. And that is something no one can claim the Framers had in mind when giving us the privilege to vote.

686 posted on 05/06/2006 8:31:07 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: DevSix

Standing. Applauding.


687 posted on 05/06/2006 8:32:05 PM PDT by Annie5622 (Democrats DO have a plan! They apparently plan to stay stupid.)
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To: cva66snipe
Oh, for crying out loud................

Presidential candidates have ALWAYS been "anointed"! What on earth do you imagine that the term "SMOKE FILLED ROOM" refers to?

And going back to Teddy Roosevelt, he was "anointed", by the N.Y.state GOP, to be McKinley's VEEP, even BEFORE the GOP Convention, in order to get him out of Albany, where he was wrecking havoc with the status quo and keep him quite.

Factual history is your friend...learn some!

688 posted on 05/06/2006 8:34:15 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Ronald Reagan is a much better example to follow than the hand-wringers and others who think if the party isn't perfect then they want to "walk out" on it to "teach them a lesson." Reagan didn't do that, and I won't either.

Too damn funny.

Ronald Magnus Reagan: "I did not leave the Democrat Party - the Democrat Party left me."

The Democrat party left Reagan just as the Republican Party has left us. Great example - thank you!

689 posted on 05/06/2006 8:40:46 PM PDT by al_again
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To: DManA

That's ok, if it's just a warning shot. However , too many want to shoot out the bottom of the ship and watch it sink, just to prove a point. Trouble is, once it's sunk, it's sunk.


690 posted on 05/06/2006 8:43:12 PM PDT by Annie5622 (Democrats DO have a plan! They apparently plan to stay stupid.)
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To: Sonora

This is no surprise to those who have been fighting the Madness for several years now. No perspective and no understanding of political realities does not lead to good decisions.

Many of the "disgruntled" are part of the Perpetually Pissed Off which never supported Bush or the GOP in the first place and have never agreed with anything he has done.


691 posted on 05/06/2006 8:43:36 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: billbears
Oh, I agree the Framers didn't envision any of this and I'd love to wave a magic wand and make it go back.

That said, I have never voted straight ticket although any support of the dim party is support of the whole. Until the libertarians get off their "legalize drugs" trip, I cannot support them either. My Rep used to be Ron Paul before we got disinfrenchfried by the gerrymandering. I really miss him, but I'm not in his district anymore.

692 posted on 05/06/2006 8:44:52 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Viva la Migra!)
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To: nopardons
Nope, President Bush DID try to undo almost all of Clinton's EOs and was told that there were many that he was NOT allowed to...and this by the SCOTUS; IIRC. This was back in '01, prior to 9/11 and was all over FR. If you need to check on me, do, by all means; just go into FR's archives.

LMAO - The SC never prevented Bush from overturning previous EO's. It is certainly within his purview to do so - not even the SC could prevent this.

693 posted on 05/06/2006 8:44:59 PM PDT by al_again
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Exactly so!


694 posted on 05/06/2006 8:45:32 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: al_again
You are wrong! Please go do some research on this matter.
695 posted on 05/06/2006 8:46:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: SouthTexas
LOL, it will get them 2 weeks of good press as "conservatives making their voices heard", yea!

And then after basking in their leftwing media glory, they will wake up and start whining again.
696 posted on 05/06/2006 8:47:36 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Sonora
The numbers are higher than you think. The choices given by the poll are to either hand it over to the rats, or work to get conservatives into power.

By supporting conservatives, FR is going to leave a lot of republicans (rinos) behind, as it should be. This will likely contribute to "handing it over to the rats."

The republicans did it to themselves.

697 posted on 05/06/2006 8:49:24 PM PDT by Washi
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To: nicmarlo
"those border crazies" who follow Buchanan.

I loathe that creature. It's a sad day when someone is accused of being associated with Buchanan because we have issues with an open border. Dang.

698 posted on 05/06/2006 8:52:03 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: roses of sharon

Or crying!


699 posted on 05/06/2006 8:52:30 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Viva la Migra!)
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To: kjo
Let's allow the Dems run it into the ground for two or four years


That's my plan. The republicans need to start acting more like conservatives if they want my vote.


I won't contribute any money or votes to RINO's. I won't vote republicans in only to end up with "liberal light"
700 posted on 05/06/2006 8:53:34 PM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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