E.U. Solution to U.S. Illegal Immigration

Santa Monica Mirror ^ | May 4 - 10, 2006 | Steven Hill

[hedgetrimmer]

Immigration issues are always ripe for demagoguery, particularly in an election year. But the solution to the very real problems along the U.S.-Mexican border can be found, ironically, in that other part of the world that American demagogues love to ridicule: old Europe.

Two years ago, the European Union admitted 10 new nations into their backyard. Like Mexico, all of these nations were poor, some of them fairly backward, corrupt and recently ravaged by war and communist dictatorship.

But the leaders of the European Union wisely created policies for fostering regional economic and political integration that make efforts like the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) look timid and halfhearted by comparison.

Europe realized it had to prevent a "giant sucking sound" of businesses and jobs relocating from the 15 wealthier nations to the 10 poorer nations. It also had to foster prosperity and the spread of a middle class in these emerging economies, and prevent an influx of poor workers to the richer nations.

So for starters it gave the new states massive subsidies – billions of dollars – to help construct schools, roads, telecommunications and housing, making these nations more attractive for business investment. The idea was to raise up the emerging economies rather than drag down the advanced economies. It is expensive, but the result has turned out to be a larger economic union in which a rising tide floats all boats.

In return, the 10 poorer nations had to agree to raise their standards on the environment, labor laws, health and safety and more. The incentive of admission to the European club was used as the carrot to the poorer nations for acceptance of human rights and political democracy. There won't be any border maquiladoras in the European Union.

The flow of worker migration still is regulated. Immigrants will be carefully integrated so as to cause the least amount of disruption to the developed economies, with the goal of having open borders within a decade or two.

This bold yet carefully planned EU approach suggests the direction that policy between the U.S. and Mexico should go. Increasingly the demands of the global economy will push the North American regional integration out of the realm of a shadow economy and flawed free trade agreement. But what might such an American-Mexican union look like?

It would start with massive subsidies from the U.S. to Mexico, a Tex-Mex Marshall Plan, with the goal of decreasing disparities on the Mexican side of the border and fostering a climate riper for investment. This would create more jobs in Mexico and foster a middle class, homeownership and better schools, roads and healthcare. Fewer Mexicans would then desire to emigrate north, instead staying home, creating more consumers to buy U.S. products.

But Europe's union is not just an economic one; it also includes continent-wide political institutions for all 25 nations. As American-Mexican economic integration unfolds, regional political structures also make sense to allow better coordination and supervision of the regulatory regime and common goals. Canada, not wishing to be left out, would ask for inclusion.

And here's an even more intriguing possibility. We always assume that opening the border means hordes of Mexicans streaming north, but under this scenario, more Americans also would begin emigrating to Mexico. With the cost of living spiraling along the coasts and in cities, many Americans would find not only the cheaper prices but also the warm climate and palm trees of Mexico a more attractive alternative than relocating to the frigid tundras of South Dakota or Kansas.

Call it the Mexican safety valve, with American workers migrating to Mexico in search of jobs, homeownership, even to start businesses. In other words, they would chase the American dream in Mexico. Already we see the beginnings of this, with American expatriate communities springing up around cities such as Guadalajara.

The Census Bureau predicts that by 2050 the number of Latinos and Asians will triple in the U.S. and whites will make up only 50% of the nation's population. For many people, these changes are alarming, but economic disparities guarantee that poor Mexicans will continue seeking entry into El Norte, legally or illegally.

Given these demographic realities, gradual integration of the American and Mexican economies is the only sensible solution. Of course, U.S. politicians are reluctant to talk about this levelheaded approach, preferring to stick to bumper-sticker slogans and avoid the reality of border issues.

In the meantime, the U.S. is missing out on huge economic opportunities while the European Union has grown to the largest trading bloc in the world, poised for the 21st century. Old Europe is looking spry on its feet, while the U.S. is looking clumsy and stuck to the flypaper of old ideas.

[patriciaruth]

What you are saying is that you don't believe in representative democracy. If you personally aren't making and concuring with all the decisions, then you hate the system.

[MissAmericanPie]

Muslims demonstrating and rioting in the streets of France. Illegals demonstrating and rioting in the streets of the USofA. Seems to me we are already there without spending billions of dollars to be like Old Europe.

[endthematrix]

Nope. And it's a great straw man.

[patriciaruth]

Better than your straw man. ;-)

[hedgetrimmer]

What you are saying is that you don't believe in representative democracy

No, that is what You are saying.

[TAdams8591]

Agreed.

[patriciaruth]

Well, it's been fun, folks; but it's my husband's turn at the internet. Any further discussion will have to wait till tomorrow.

Cheers!
Patty

[endthematrix]

"This is a representative democracy."

Aiming for global plutocracy.

[MissAmericanPie]

After thought. Vicente Fox said in Monterey Mexico during the International meeting per he and Bush's discussions in Crawford, Texas, that the USofA, Canada, and Mexico WILL, not maybe, unite under one umbrella with American wages dropping to meet Mexico's rising wages.

So that would seem to me to indicate that our politicians do have a plan for sending billions in dollars to Mexico following the E.U. template. They are already planning to send 35 billion from our broken Social Security system to Mexico for distribution. So my suspicion is not all that far fetched.

[eazdzit]

Earthdweller Posted: "the right is currently counter moving to keep from being over run."

You responded: "Nope the parties are hand in glove on this one."

AGREED That's why I call them PuboCrats.

Here is some info on the EU.

While talking about Europe............Jose Maria Azner, former Spanish Prime Minister, said in a speech on October 24,1905 Excerpt:

......"We(Europe) need to define new policies in two essential areas: terrorism and immigration.

Regarding terrorism" .................. "we must accept the fact that we are at war, a war declared against us by islamic fundamentalists". ...........we have the right and duty to defend our societies............

Regarding immigration, .......the multiculture experiment has failed.

He also mentions the onset of globalization and the negative reaction the general population had to it.

In this country the general public seems to be unaware that we are well into implementing "Globalization"

We talk about how to fix the border problem, when in fact the plan calls for open borders and free flow of workers and goods.

Our dear leaders are afraid to admit this and have, paid shills and volunteers, all over the internet disrupting dialog, Hijacking threads and trying to prevent the spreading of this knowledge.

Go to numbers.com ( or however you can get it done) and fax your senator. Tell them that they will be targeted with a campaign to vote against them, if they support Bush's guest worker plan with a path to citizenship.

Ignore the SHILL'S AND NWO Lackeys.

:)Easy Does It:)

[Earthdweller]

"Our dear leaders are afraid to admit this and have, paid shills and volunteers, all over the internet disrupting dialog, Hijacking threads and trying to prevent the spreading of this knowledge."

Well, personally I don't think it take a genius to see it but that's just me.

I think it's more like the general public does not spend time talking about it. They are more concerned about getting to work and feeding their families. Not everyone spends days upon end dwelling on world leaders and events. JMHO

You will just have to admit..we have too much time on our hands to think. It may be a curse. LOL.

[azhenfud]

I have a much simpler one. Do away with the minimum wage.

Allow anyone from anywhere access into the US as long as they have a document from their country of origin.

If they can take a job Americans won't do, allow the employer to apply the current exchange rate of their home country to the labor rate.

Ie. China's exchange rate to the US dollar is roughly 0.1209. If a job usually pays an American worker $18/hr, we should allow employers to pay Chinese laborers $2.18/hr. Mexico's rate is roughly 0.0909. An $18/hr job ought justly net the Mexican $1.64/hr. India's exchange rate is....well, you get the picture...

Free markets ought be just that. Either they are free, or they aren't.

[antisocial]

Sad day for America!

There will be many here on this thread that will think this is wonderful.

[antisocial]

"We really don't want of that bad medicine here. The person that cooked up this idiotic scheme ought to live in the rough parts of Paris for a month before spewing this crap all over our bandwidth."

Exactly, but the real problem is this is what Bush wants for us.

[Final Authority]

Let's see, we can have EU style socialism, EU style high unemployment, EU style ethnic riots in the street, EU style throat cutting in the street, EU style euthanasia, EU style drug use, or, we can have American style constitutional government, enforcement of laws, apprehension of criminal aliens and their employers, and when that doesn't finish the job, American style might, of weaponry and barriers to our nation.

Let me think...I'll take the later, thank you, thank you very much.

[antisocial]

"I second the motion for Hill to jump off a cliff."

Hill is merely trying to explain what has been suggested by CFR and is already being implemented by our benevolent government.

[Final Authority]

Your last post is precisely why, if we believe in our free constitutional republic, the values of our forefathers, the culture that has made the USA the greatest nation on Earth, that we cannot allow the status quo to continue in the next two elections. We must cause as much mischief to the political system as possible. We must begin a strong third party presence and kick out the GOP from the majority, that is, if we are to save our nation from the likes of the CFR, CATO, WTO, and world government NGOs in general.