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Chinese Military Doctor Witness to over 60,000 “Involuntary” Organ Donations
Lifesite ^ | May 3 06 | Lifesite

Posted on 05/03/2006 10:57:59 PM PDT by churchillbuff

Chinese Military Doctor Witness to over 60,000 “Involuntary” Organ Donations – most from Falun Gong Organs extracted from live people and people who survive are cremated alive

By Terry Vanderheyden

SHENYANG, May 3, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – China's 30 years of brutal, forced abortion to implement its one-child policy and its subsequent devaluing of human life has led has led to a new atrocity. A Chinese military doctor has revealed that he has personally encountered falsified documents for over 60,000 detainees – many of them members of the Falun Gong religion – which falsely claim that the individual named is voluntarily donating an organ.

He described the procedure used on the detainees: they are brought in to a military facility for what they are told is a routine exam, given local anaesthetic, and then the doctor removes the organ – sometimes even a heart – while the prisoner is still conscious. Those who survive the process are later cremated alive.

“One thing worth noting is that during the entire process of an organ transplant, if the transplant is not successful, the documents on the organ source and the body must be destroyed within 72 hours,” testified the unnamed doctor, who is now elderly. “All of the documents and the body (sometimes even a live person) must be cremated and the cremation certified by military management personnel. These military personnel have the right to arrest, detain, or execute any doctors, police, paramilitary police, or research staff who leak the secret to the outside.”

As reported by the Epoch Times news on line, “underground” organ transplants occur at a rate many times that of the number publicized by the government. “For example, if the government says that there are 30,000 cases a year, then the real number is about 110,000. There is an abundance of organ sources, and this is another reason why the prices for organ transplants have decreased.”

The doctor further testified that in the eyes of the surgeons, the organ donors are no longer regarded as human, but as animals. “When doing it for the first or second time, some of them feel shaky and nervous. But after thousands of operations, everything is changed. They become numb about extracting organs from live people and cremating live people.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bodybrokers; china; chinesemilitary; falungong; horrorsociety; killers
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To: COBOL2Java

Actually a FATHER demanded the return of his son... but hey, lets not let a little thing like Father's rights weigh into this, after all this country doesn't believe in em anyway...


21 posted on 05/04/2006 5:34:34 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: U S Army EOD

"SHENYANG, May 3, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – China's 30 years of brutal, forced abortion to implement its one-child policy and its subsequent devaluing of human life has led has led to a new atrocity. "

Sounds like a great place for NARAL to take up shop.


22 posted on 05/04/2006 6:01:39 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats = The Culture of Treason)
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To: HamiltonJay
...Actually a FATHER demanded the return of his son...

I support a father's rights, but in a totalitarian society like Castro's, I'm more than a little bit skeptical of the advertised motivations. If Elian's father truly wanted his son back, and it was not due solely to manipulation from the Maximum Leader (who stood to gain richly from this episode) then I'll take back my opinion.

23 posted on 05/04/2006 6:16:58 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: churchillbuff

Assume the story is true. Then assume that the Chinese regime is actually using falsified 'voluntary' donation forms by Falun Gong members for these organ removals.

Don't they realize they are simply proving one of two things:
1. The Falun Gong members are the most generous and charitable people in history and should be revered. or
2. This is such an obvious travesty that the regime will be despised throughout history when the truth surfaces.


24 posted on 05/04/2006 7:02:47 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: feinswinesuksass

Here's the thing: in Chinese culture (and in most eastern cultures), it is believed that you cannot enter the afterlife without your whole body. For that reason, there is virtually no voluntary organ donation in that country.

Hence the need for organs...


25 posted on 05/04/2006 7:42:36 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: churchillbuff

Here's more on the subject http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/160ymogj.asp
Reminds me of the movie `Hostel'. What a horror show.


26 posted on 05/04/2006 8:24:25 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: monkapotamus

OH My...thanks for the morning laugh. THAT is hilarious.


27 posted on 05/04/2006 8:57:30 AM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: churchillbuff

Dr. Mengele would be proud!


28 posted on 05/04/2006 3:10:56 PM PDT by pankot
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To: churchillbuff; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...
Harvesting Fetal Body Parts
Parts from a single body could fetch up to $150,000 BODY BROKERS

29 posted on 06/03/2006 6:35:18 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: churchillbuff

Lord, God, bring this horrid practice to a screeching halt, ASAP, PLEASE.

Cause those generating such horror to reap what they have sown sooner than later and may it vividly be diclosed to the public by unimpeachable sources. May the populace rise up in outrage and disgust.


30 posted on 06/03/2006 6:40:07 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: feinswinesuksass

From what experience and observsations do you assert that it sounds

"far fetched?"


31 posted on 06/03/2006 6:41:13 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: stormlead

I suppose you haven't read the TIENANMEN PAPERS either.


32 posted on 06/03/2006 6:43:15 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: churchillbuff

Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1602444/posts
Heart recipients' hospital has China death-row link


Excerpt from thread:

China harvesting inmates' organs, journalist says

A Chinese official was the first person to reveal that secret medical work was being done at the Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine, in Sujiatun, a suburb of Shenyang, the major city in northeastern China, he said.

Mr. Jin then said he found out that a large underground prison was built beneath the hospital and that members of the outlawed Falun Gong religious group were being held there. As many as 6,000 people are thought to be held prisoner at the underground facility, he said.

The hospital is harvesting the organs of the prisoners, including kidneys, livers, and eye parts, he said. The organs are then sold to people, from both China and abroad, who need medical organ transplants.


33 posted on 06/03/2006 6:51:26 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
bump

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1521072/posts
Unit 731 - Research and Bump List. Gets Disturbing, Read at Your Own Risk

Excerpt from thread:

Japan Admits Dissecting WW II POWs

Live dissection of American POWs
When and where
How they died
The sentence
MacArthur let the mudrerers go free

UKUOKA, Japan "I could never again wear a white smock," says Dr. Toshio Tono, dressed in a white running jacket at his hospital and recalling events of 50 years ago. "It's because the prisoners thought that we were doctors, since they could see the white smocks, that they didn't struggle. They never dreamed they would be dissected."

The prisoners were eight American airmen, knocked out of the sky over southern Japan during the waning months of World War U, and then torn apart organ by organ while they were still alive.

What occurred here 50 years ago this month, at the anatomy department of Kyushu University, has been largely forgotten in Japan and is virtually unknown in the United States. American prisoners of war were subjected to horrific medical experiments. All of the prisoners died. Most of the physicians and asistants then did their best to hide the evidence of what they had done.

/excerpt

This is what happens when we don't finish a job. The Communist Party won, China fell. The war criminals were set free and continued their work in influencial positions.

34 posted on 06/03/2006 7:02:14 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

ping


35 posted on 06/03/2006 7:07:21 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Jeff Head

ping


36 posted on 06/03/2006 7:08:30 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Sun; Dr. Marten; Plasmaman

ping


37 posted on 06/03/2006 7:09:45 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: All

So let's contact our reps and tell them no more trade with China.

Free trade with FREE COUNTRIES.


38 posted on 06/03/2006 8:55:06 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: Quix

Uh, this thread was sooooo last month.


39 posted on 06/04/2006 12:07:54 PM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: feinswinesuksass

Uh, this thread was sooooo last month.
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I usuallydon't worry a great deal about that. Most of us--at least in one or more areas . . . can stand to have a LOT of repetition before the import of the facts . . . and sometimes, just the raw facts of an issue or situation sink in to the degree really necessary to take wise action related thereto.


40 posted on 06/04/2006 1:34:46 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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