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The Verdict (on Moussaoui)
National Review ^ | May 3, 2006 | Jon Podhoretz

Posted on 05/03/2006 10:43:36 PM PDT by parousia

"America, you lost. I won," Moussaoui said, clapping his hands as he was led out of the courtroom after the verdict was read.

The Verdict [John Podhoretz] extract http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTQwYmRmZDg2MGIyNDE2OTRkNjgwMDdhZmJiNzQ1M2M

Zacarias Moussaoui is the only person to be charged with crimes related to September 11. He pled guilty to involvement in the plot. We have been told that if the FBI had authorized a search of Moussaoui's computer, seized a month before the attacks, we would have been able to prevent the attacks.

Having judged that he was a participant in the September 11 planning, jurors nonetheless ruled that Moussaoui was not responsible for the deaths on September 11 — though they apparently acknowledge his involvement in the planning of the attacks. To imagine that there can be any mitigating circumstance regarding Moussaoui's actual guilt is moral idiocy of the highest order.

Alas, that moral idiocy was clearly at work in the jury deliberations. I would guess we will hear from some jurors who sought a different outcome over the next week that will cast some uncomfortable light on the goings-on inside the jury room.

Crazy? Yes. He wanted to commit suicide by being a participant in the hijacking and destruction of an airborne plane. No one but a crazy person could desire such a death.

The problem is that the world has seen at least two thousand such madmen and madwomen make a choice to kill themselves in order to kill others in the past 15 years. Is their hunger for death to be "understood" and explained away in this fashionable fashion — by invoking a cruel mother and a father with mental illness?

This is a deeply disheartening day.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; justicefailed; liberaljudge; moussaoui; podhoretz
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To: marron

"...and a failure as a martyr."

Nothing says his virgins have to be pretty.


21 posted on 05/04/2006 4:17:59 AM PDT by Gum Shoe
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To: parousia

It's possible that the jurors feared for their lives!

A sentence of death would have meant years of legal battles for as much as 20 years, during which time this thing would have become the pretty boy of International Amnesty, Ed Asner and the usual crowd.

A life sentence is bad because this thing will be given hero status, be given interviews, write letters and books, convert inmates to the cause.

Obviously the problem is the legal system which treats criminals as victims.

It's too bad that the USA has lost its ability to deal with criminals the way that it should.


22 posted on 05/04/2006 4:38:06 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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To: parousia

I can't help but wonder how long it will be until a terrorist hostage taking or similar event will be used to try and blackmail the USA into releasing him.


23 posted on 05/04/2006 4:41:59 AM PDT by Grig
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To: sourcery
Remember how Jeffery Dhamer died? There is always hope, and many in prison that would love to kill this POS as much as you or I... guards included!

LLS
24 posted on 05/04/2006 4:43:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

I'm hoping someone will kill him in prison.
Perhaps he will end up in a prison with someone who lost a loved one on 9-11.


25 posted on 05/04/2006 4:45:05 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (taglines are for sissies)
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To: Muzzle_em

Now that's a thought...

But I think it's better he spend 40 or more years thinking about it, and eventually coming to the realization that he was wrong, that his envy of all that America stands for was twisted and exploited by vicious men like bin laden; maybe when he gets older and mellows he'll understand that he was just being used.


26 posted on 05/04/2006 4:55:40 AM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
This sounds like hell on earth

...You're kidding right?

He will not be in fear of the general population of prisoners harrassing him, making life hard for him...or worry about a shiv in the shower.

He can rest....have his food brought to him....and no doubt have access to books...who knows, maybe a TV...

..and with his mindset, rest on his laurels thinking himself a bigshot, a big name, a legend in his own mind.

Real hell on earth would be..... death and waiting for it...

...or general population where he had to scratch and fight for basic food and shelter and fend off rapists and killers.

27 posted on 05/04/2006 5:25:43 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere

I'm afraid you're right.

I simply don't believe that he wanted to be a martyr. He wanted to be important. Now, in his own mind, he is important, and he relax in his cell waiting for some kind of hostage exchange deal. Pray it never comes.


29 posted on 05/04/2006 6:06:03 AM PDT by joylyn
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

Throw in pork, three times a day, and I am with you!


30 posted on 05/04/2006 6:22:07 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: Guenevere

Did you look at the conditions under which people live in Florence?

If you consider that nice, you must have had a pretty tough life.

Solitary confinement is torture and that is what he is facing until he dies a very slow death.

Do you mean to tell me that you would prefer slow, lonely death of alone with almost zero human contact in a 12 by 8 concrete room to something that was realitve fast and painless?

To me this sentence was essentially death by slow torture. Worse than a needle by a long shot.


31 posted on 05/04/2006 6:27:12 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (No one cares if the muzzies are free. It really is about their oil.)
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To: Redleg Duke

Ha! Something a little more practical and less philosophical, huh?


32 posted on 05/04/2006 6:27:22 AM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: parousia
Mark Levin said Jurors were persuaded to spare the life of the 19th hijacker after being plied by typical liberal testimony about his childhood to show that he grew up in a neglectful household in France where his father beat his mother regularly

The soothing poison of political correctness and the wussification of our society will eventually lead to the downfall of our country and the west in general.

Perhaps Moussaoui wasn't referring to his sentence when he proclaimed he'd won, but to the real cancers that are slowly eating away at western civilization.

In this respect, he's right - he won. All the islamists have to do is sit back and wait for us to do the dirty work for them.
33 posted on 05/04/2006 6:38:21 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Support American sovereignty - boycott employers of illegal aliens)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Are you an inmate/or work there?

How would you know what it's like?

IMO, no one....no one would choose death over life....

Even martyrs of old wanted to live...

..they simply would not surrender their faith to do so....God bless them.

I'm positive.....this terrorist is quite happy those jurors had bleeding hearts and pc conscience.

34 posted on 05/04/2006 9:26:06 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere
See post 16. Follow the link. Read about the prison and then come back and see if you think the conditions are better than a quick and painless death

People committ suicide everyday, so your assumption:

no one would choose death over life

is ludicrous.

If you alter your assumption say that no sane person would chose death over life than you have made the case that he isn't fit to answer for his crimes.

35 posted on 05/04/2006 11:57:01 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (No one cares if the muzzies are free. It really is about their oil.)
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