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Report: Inmate wrongly executed
Chicago Tribune ^ | 5/3/6 | Maurice Possley

Posted on 05/03/2006 8:33:25 AM PDT by Crackingham

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To: Stone Mountain
Actually, not for me. What is the problem with Scheck?

Well would you trust someone who can proclaim OJ's innocence with a straight face?

41 posted on 05/03/2006 8:55:44 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Coop

Har, good luck.

This isn't a person, it is an internet posting bot.


42 posted on 05/03/2006 8:58:43 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Yeah, I noticed that. Seems we have a lot of liberals coming out of the closet lately.

I don't have an account of the trial on hand or anything. I'd have to go search for it but I'm sure it is out there.

Given the number of appeals these people get, I have little doubt he was guilty.

43 posted on 05/03/2006 8:58:53 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: Stone Mountain
What is the problem with Scheck?

The OJ trial ring a bell?

44 posted on 05/03/2006 8:59:50 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Syncro

Of the 40+ post, it has only responded in the single digits.


45 posted on 05/03/2006 9:00:10 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Coop
Strong, silent type, huh? :-) You ain't foolin' me.

Kind of a strange poster. Justs post article after article with no comments.

46 posted on 05/03/2006 9:00:18 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: gunnedah
Before seeking the death penalty you need unbiased testimony and that is hard to find.

Nobody in this country, with extremely rare exceptions such as Timothy McVeigh, ever gets put to death without an exhaustive appeal and review process that typically lasts around 25 years.

The idea that the death row system is flawed is nothing but a bunch of liberal BS. If there's any reasonable question whatsoever about the person's guilt, he doesn't get executed.

47 posted on 05/03/2006 9:00:48 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Crackingham

He's dead, Jim.


48 posted on 05/03/2006 9:00:52 AM PDT by claudiustg (Build a fence. They won't come.)
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To: Always Right

I'm responding.

49 posted on 05/03/2006 9:01:24 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: RonF

Quote "At some point it's going to happen; it'll be proved that a man was executed on the basis of testimony or evidence that will be found to have been false. It may even happen that it will be proved that an innocent man was executed. And that's when there will be a serious push in America to abolish the death penalty."

Ummm that has already happened in several states. Nothing has changed.


50 posted on 05/03/2006 9:02:34 AM PDT by silentknight
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To: Stone Mountain
This is a serious indictment of the Texas justice system - you should need damn near incontrovertible evidence to put someone to death in this country. From the article:

YOU DO!

51 posted on 05/03/2006 9:03:16 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Crackingham; Admin Moderator

Why do you let this posting bot stay?


52 posted on 05/03/2006 9:04:38 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (More people died in Ted Kennedy's car than hunting with Dick Cheney.)
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To: Always Right
Well would you trust someone who can proclaim OJ's innocence with a straight face?

Did he say OJ was innocent or did he say that the scientific evidence alone wasn't sufficient to warrant a conviction? Big difference. Since the OJ trial Scheck started a group called the Innocence Project and has helped to free people who have been wrongly convicted based on mistaken eyewitness identification. Men convicted wrongly of rape and other serious crimes who have served years - well over a decade in some cases - have been freed based on DNA evidence that has proved their innocence. Even if you believe that Scheck was completely wrong during the OJ trial, I think he's more than made up for it with the group he has started. These are innocent people that would be rotting away in jail were it not for the Innocence Project - you can bet that the government wasn't going to review any of those cases.

As far as the OJ trial, I don't blame Scheck or even Johnny Cochran for the verdict. I blame the jury. I followed basically the entire case on Court TV and I believe there was sufficient evidence to convict. Cochran was doing his job by putting forth the best defense he was capable of. The jury, as far as I was concerned, made the wrong decision. But given that, I didn't see that Scheck lied or gave misleading testimony in any part of the trial he was involved in.

53 posted on 05/03/2006 9:04:51 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain
Actually, not for me. What is the problem with Scheck?

Scheck is an Amnesty International type who never met a sociopath he didn't love.

54 posted on 05/03/2006 9:05:16 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: jeremiah
Does anyone have a link to more info than just that presented in this article?

Try here:

http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/willingham899.htm

55 posted on 05/03/2006 9:05:22 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Crackingham
by the Innocence Project

Ahh yes, these folks..
56 posted on 05/03/2006 9:07:05 AM PDT by Daus
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To: jerod
The headline of this article is a crime in itself.
Talk about "yellow journalism".

As for Barry Scheck, his Innocence Project has also released a man in WI after 18 yrs. in prison. That man promptly lured, raped, tortured, stabbed, and burnt a young female photographer, using his 12 yr. old nephew as an accomplice.
Also, after the execution of a murderer in VA, the governor ordered that the entire case be redone, as he was hoping to knock down the death penalty, too. The DNA evidence clearly proved that the man executed for raping and murdering his sister-in-law actually did commit the crimes.

The reporting of this story stinks to high heaven, and Barry Scheck has bigger motives than the innocence of some death row inmate, but as one who remembers the case of Scott Hornoff so clearly, I am in favor of a do over in some cases. Hornoff was a RI police officer who spent six yrs. in prison for murder. One day, out of the blue, the real killer walked into a police station and confessed. Truly one of the most bizarre things I have ever witnessed, and proof positive that LEO can sometimes be so wrong that it destroys people and faith in the system. One cop in the Hornoff case told a friend that "they" all knew Hornoff didn't do it, but, geez that guy was such an a@@*&^%...
57 posted on 05/03/2006 9:07:36 AM PDT by ishabibble (UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL)
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To: Stone Mountain
Did he say OJ was innocent or did he say that the scientific evidence alone wasn't sufficient to warrant a conviction? Big difference.

Except there was enough scientific evidence in the OJ case to convict normal 10 men.

58 posted on 05/03/2006 9:08:13 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: pabianice
In their report, the experts, assembled by the Innocence Project, a non-profit organization responsible for scores of exonerations,

Gee. No bias here. /s

The Innocence Project IS a non-profit organization responsible for scores of exonerations. How is that biased?

59 posted on 05/03/2006 9:08:22 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Crackingham
I put on my asbestos this morning, so feel free to flame away.

I've said it before: this is why I'm against the death penalty. Not that I'm against the principle as such, it's that government is incapable of doing it right like so many other things.

If you chuck a man into a cell and later find out that you were wrong, you can at least clear his record, issue public apologies, make resitution, etc. Which is all well and good. But if you strap him to a table and kill him, well, if you were wrong you can't really take that back.

Therefore, the death penalty is something that can only be justly administered if the entitity administering it can get it right every single time. The government can't. The government is too incompetent and too venal, petty, political, and cruel to be trusted with the power of life and death over the citizens of these United States.
60 posted on 05/03/2006 9:08:31 AM PDT by JamesP81
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