I'll see if I can find the article I recently posted about how the British troops are afraid they'll be prosecuted if they defend themselves.
1 posted on
05/02/2006 5:38:07 PM PDT by
blam
To: blam
Gen Chiarelli? Nahhhhhhh, kill 'em all. God will know his own.
2 posted on
05/02/2006 5:39:59 PM PDT by
null and void
(American leftists are more concerned about regaining their power than with the safety of the country)
To: blam
3 posted on
05/02/2006 5:41:19 PM PDT by
blam
To: blam
hmmmmm.... let's see Gung-Ho or not Gung-Ho????? Gung-Ho is why Patton beat Monty - DUH!!!
4 posted on
05/02/2006 5:42:40 PM PDT by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: blam
Sure. Marines to drink tea and pronounce tissue as
tissssss-youBloody hell.
5 posted on
05/02/2006 5:44:21 PM PDT by
llevrok
(Drink your beer, damnit. There are sober people in Africa.)
To: blam
I read the news today, oh boy
The English Army had just won the war...
8 posted on
05/02/2006 5:46:19 PM PDT by
D-Chivas
To: blam
I hate to say this but does this general know his own troops?
9 posted on
05/02/2006 5:49:58 PM PDT by
usmcobra
(Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
To: blam
"...spurn sunglasses, which prevent eye contact"
Anyone working outside in a desert landscape must wear sunglasses to protect their vision. To suggest otherwise is absolute nonsense.
10 posted on
05/02/2006 5:50:10 PM PDT by
Sabatier
To: blam
Lt Gen Peter Chiarelli, who commands operations for the 132,000 American soldiers in the country, told his men to display more sensitivity and reach for their guns less often.Fire this clown NOW.
To: blam
If I was the parent of one of this clown's soldiers I would be very, very afraid.
To: blam
God forbid....
If this is the mentality of our Generals, pull out the troops now and let whatever happens - happen..
Give this General the Salvation Army to command.....
Not warriors.
Who the hell wants to die in order to avoid insulting or inflaming and armed opponent?
Semper Fi
14 posted on
05/02/2006 6:01:17 PM PDT by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: blam
"Gung-ho US troops urged to be more British"
Good-day Mate!
17 posted on
05/02/2006 6:12:05 PM PDT by
ruiner
To: blam
Its a tough one I know, but the man has a point.
Will it create more risk for the US troops: Yes
Will it help on the ground in 'winning the hearts and minds': Yes
Is it worth the trade? Thats up to everyone to decide for themselves.
Having waged a counter-insurgency war for decades in Northern Ireland and Oman, the UK military have developed good tactics when it comes to this kind of scenario. Obviously, in a full-blown war, it doesn't pay to ask questions first, but in a policing, counter-insurgency role it is the best course of action.
Yes its more risky for the troops, but you always have to trade off safety in order to gain the trust of the locals. Thats how you win the hearts and minds, and makes the people 'on the fence', fall on our side and not the enemies.
Also, as for the shades, it is indeed part of Arabic culture to see a mans eyes. To 'hide' ones eyes is a sign that the individual isn't trustworthy, and is unwilling to look a man face to face. Lessons learned through troopers who lost their lives in Northern Ireland and Oman are lessons worth learning.
To: blam
Maybe they should learn to speak Arabic too.
To: blam
I just wrote a letter to my Congressman conplaining about this guy. We'll see how long this guy stays in the Army.
To: blam
"Gen Chiarelli sent articles(to subordinates)from British newspapers criticising the sometimes tough tactics used by American soldiers..."Generals like Chiarelli get American soldiers killed.This guy needs to get the boot.
22 posted on
05/02/2006 6:27:07 PM PDT by
Thombo2
To: blam
I see the "don't ask, don't tell" policy has made it up the chain of command.
The politically correct people are in charge now, thanks Bush.
23 posted on
05/02/2006 6:28:26 PM PDT by
liliesgrandpa
(The Republican Party simply can't do anything without that critical 100-seat Senate majority.)
To: blam
If that's going to be their orders...then bring them home. Their job is finished.
29 posted on
05/02/2006 6:45:49 PM PDT by
processing please hold
(Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
To: blam
Gung-ho US troops urged to be more British I say, Zarqawi old chap, how about a spot of tea?
31 posted on
05/02/2006 6:47:02 PM PDT by
lowbridge
(I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
To: blam
British tactics have enabled Muqtar Sadr to set up a massive militia financed by Iran in the Basra area.
The same British tactics the author espouses were wasted on 30 yrs of warfare against the IRA, despite having a spy in every meeting of the IRA general council.One missile could have saved hundreds of lives.
The British military way, I am sad to say,has turned into the way of the pussy....I know I served for 24yrs in the organization.
Most folks do not know that British NCO's carry upto 18 colored cards. Which they have to refer too when confronted by an incident.
Each card lays out the details of :- use of armed response(yellow card), use of non lethal weapons (pink card),use of CS gas(white card),powers of arrest(blue card),vehicle control(green card),use of an ATGW(red and white card),use of a SAW,etc, etc.
Remember folks, the 20 yr old kid in charge of a "Brick" (four man patrol) who is taking incoming fire HAS to respond within the constraints imposed on him/her by the attorneys and set in stone on those cards.
Thomas Atkins deserves far better leadership than the current sad generalship.
Thank God American Generals are not falling for this crap.
35 posted on
05/02/2006 7:02:42 PM PDT by
managusta
("Where would we be without rules? That's right France!")
To: blam
Note to Donald Rumsfeld -
Relieve this PC drone of his command immediately.
38 posted on
05/02/2006 7:41:55 PM PDT by
Stormcrow
("It's not that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so.")
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