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"Dad Was Fine When I Came Out of Closet" -- Mary Cheney
Drudge Report ^ | May 2, 2006 | Drudge

Posted on 05/02/2006 1:10:54 PM PDT by meandog

New York, N.Y. – In her new memoir, NOW IT'S MY TURN(Simon & Schuster/Threshold Editions, 2006), Mary Cheney writes that when she told her parents she was gay, the first words out of her father’s mouth “were exactly the ones that I wanted to hear: ‘You’re my daughter, and I love you, and I just want you to be happy.’”

VANITY FAIR editor Todd Purdum reports that Mary Cheney tells her story in a voice very much like her father’s, and that she came out to her parents when she was a junior in high school, on a day when, after breaking up with her first girlfriend, she skipped school, ran a red light, and crashed the family car. Cheney writes that her mother hugged her, but then burst into tears, worried that she would face a life of pain and prejudice.

When Purdum asks the vice president whether he thinks gay people are born that way, Cheney scrunches up his mouth, fixes him with a look that says “Nice try,” then says: “I’m not going to get into that. Those are deeply personal questions. You can ask.”

Mary Cheney tells Purdum that her father “has very little tolerance for bullshit, pardon my French.” She also says that one common reaction from people who have read the manuscript of her book is “‘Wow, you guys really have this close-knit, loving family,’ and it always strikes me as ‘Yeah, of course we do.’ It was very surprising to me that people would think we didn’t.”

When Purdum asks Cheney if he is fatalistic about his heart disease, Cheney says, “I am. I don’t even think about it most of the time. You do those things a prudent man would do, and I live with it.” Asked what he would have for breakfast at Nora’s Fish Creek Inn, his favorite pre-fishing spot in Wilson, Wyoming, Cheney responds without missing a beat: “I’d probably have two eggs over easy, sausage and hash browns,” then hastens to add that that is not his normal breakfast. “The day I go fishing, I get off my diet,” he says.” At a roundtable lunch with reporters a couple of years ago, two who were pres­ent tell Purdum that Cheney cut his buffalo steak in bite-size pieces the moment it arrived, then proceeded to salt each side of each piece.

Cheney tells Purdum that he has not changed over the years, but perhaps many of his contemporaries think he has “because of my associations over the years, or because I came across as a reasonable guy, people have one view of me that was not necessarily an accurate reflection of my philosophy or my view of the world.”

Purdum asks Cheney if, during his “darkest night,” he has even “a little doubt” about the administration’s course. “No,” he tells Purdum. “I think we’ve done what needed to be done.” Of the debate over whether or not the administration hyped the pre-war intelligence, Cheney says, “In the end, you can argue about the quality of the intelligence and so forth, but ... I look at that whole spectrum of possibilities and options, and I think we did the right thing.”

Cheney rejects the caricature of him as the power behind the throne, insisting, “I think we have created a system that works for this president and for me, in terms of my ability to be able to contribute and participate in the process.” When Purdum says that the cartoon characterization of him must not be accurate, Cheney says, “My image might be better out there, this caricature you talk about might be avoided, if I spent more time as a public figure trying to improve my image, but that’s not why I’m here.”

Purdum reports that Cheney travels with a chemical-biological suit at all times. When he gave his friend Robin West and his twin children a ride to the White House a couple of years ago, West commented on the fact that Cheney’s motorcade varied its daily path. “And he said, ‘Yeah, we take different routes so that “The Jackal” can’t get me,’” West tells Purdum. “And then there was this big duffel bag in the middle of the backseat, and I said, ‘What’s that? It’s not very roomy in here.’ And [Cheney] said, ‘No, because it’s a chemical-biological suit,’ and he looked at it and said, ‘Robin, there’s only one. You lose.’”

Purdum talks with former New York Times reporter and former executive editor of The Philadelphia Inquirer, James Naughton, who asks of Cheney: “Does he acknowledge that he is not as pleasant as he used to be?” Naughton knew Cheney as a fellow prankster during the 1976 campaign, and all but sighs in search of an explanation as to why he is so different now. “I guess I would like to believe,” he says, “without any evidence to support it, that coming very close to death has somehow compelled him to act as though he only has so much breath and so much life, that he’s only got so much time to accomplish what he has to do. But the public figure is nothing like the private one that I remember.”

Gerald Ford tells Purdum: “He may have changed a bit, but that was required for the change of circumstances.” Ford, who will turn 93 in July, adds, “Times change, and people change as a result of that.”

“If you’re looking for a change from one point to another, being vice president is sui generis,” Lynne Cheney tells Purdum. “It’s not quite like any other job.”

The June issue of Vanity Fair hits newsstands in New York and L.A. on May 3 and nationally on May 9.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
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To: colorado tanker
Exactly: Just because he doesn't like you (the msm) doesn't mean he doesn't like anyone. Ha!
61 posted on 05/02/2006 1:59:37 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: mlc9852

"And how should children feel for completely disappointing their parents and going against what the parents believe? It's a two-way street."




It is, indeed, a two-way street, mlcnnnn. Love works both ways. Our children may not be who we dreamed they would be. They may not act as we would wish.

Our offspring may also not have parents who are what parents should be. Parents may not act as they should.

Disappointment. I'm sure most parents are disappointed in their children from time to time. Having a child who is gay is not the end of the world, and should not be the end of the relationship. That's just nuts.

I have an uncle on my wife's side. He's dying of kidney failure, and his wife is not well, either. They have three children. One of them is a gay man. The other two are daughters. They've always treated their son well, along with his partner of 20 years.

Now, guess who is taking care of them in their old age and infirmity? Not the daughters, although they love their parents. They have families of their own to deal with. The son has taken a leave of absence from his job as a project manager for a large corporation. He spends his days now at his parents' house, helping care for his father.

Do not reject a gay child. You will never forgive yourself.


62 posted on 05/02/2006 2:00:35 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

Amen.


63 posted on 05/02/2006 2:00:47 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: NAVY84

how i wish this man would run for POTUS.


64 posted on 05/02/2006 2:02:58 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
When they stand before God one day, will it matter that it felt real nice to look the other way?

Admittedly, I'm atheist, but...

Suggesting the Cheneys will go to hell for not turning away their daughter does not jibe with ANYTHING I ever learned of Christian theology.

65 posted on 05/02/2006 2:04:57 PM PDT by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: MineralMan
So you would never judge your children for anything except judging? What about their grades? Will you judge them if they bring home failing grades? Skip school? Use drugs? Get arrested? Commit a crime? Yell curses at you? Something? Surely there is something you would judge them on, or what use are you as a parent? Good parents care about their children's moral character.

The lesbian you speak of must understand that she can choose her immorality but she can't choose other people's response to it. I am sure her parents would welcome her back if she starts living right. They would rejoice, I'll bet you. But they should not have to ignore their beliefs for the relationship. Clearly you do not expect the daughter to ignore her lust for women in order to restore the relationship? Why should the parents have to ignore their principles? It works both ways.

It's one thing if the child is underage, but quite another if they are adults.

66 posted on 05/02/2006 2:05:23 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: bannedfromdu
"You love your kids not matter what they do."

While Miss Cheney's sin does not reach the level of some, I do think it is fair to notice than one too many parents feel just as you do. Is it unsporting of me to notice the quotes of all the serial killers who "love" their monsters for children?

Some of them have gotten out right mad should anyone would suggest their children are anything but wonderful people.

I had a brother that went AWOL while in the Navy. I was just little but I remember my retired Chief of a father politely telling him he has a choice. Go back and face the Skipper or stay at home and wait for the police to pick him up. He said that with his hands on the telephone. The message was clear my brother went back that to his ship that night. And my father was the soft permissive one of the parents.

There is a saying "Love the man but hate the sin." It seems to be forgotten these days.
67 posted on 05/02/2006 2:06:22 PM PDT by iluvlucy (swim the Tiber, the water is fine)
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To: conserv13

Your generalization makes me wonder about you.

The situation with Alan Keyes and his daughter is not parallel. IIRC, his daughter is very rebellious in other ways as well.


68 posted on 05/02/2006 2:08:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

"So you would never judge your children for anything except judging? What about their grades? Will you judge them if they bring home failing grades? Skip school? Use drugs? Get arrested? Commit a crime? Yell curses at you? Something? Surely there is something you would judge them on, or what use are you as a parent? Good parents care about their children's moral character."



Good parents teach their children. They correct their mistakes. They help them understand.

GOOD PARENTS DO NOT CUT THEIR CHILDREN OFF!

Parents who do that are not good parents.

A parent can certainly disapprove of a child's behavior, even when that child is an adult. A parent can, and should, express that disapproval. However, a parent who simply rejects a child for something like this is stupid beyond belief. It is an action that cannot be recalled. It is an action that will follow the parent to his or her grave.

Homosexuality is a sin, according to most religions. So is adultery. So are many things. Rejecting a child for their choice or genetic coding for homosexuality is ridiculous.

Love your children. Chide them, but don't reject them. If you reject them, you will sorrow over it.


69 posted on 05/02/2006 2:10:21 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: meandog

Who cares about what her Dad thinks, what about The Village? /Hillary Clintoon logic


71 posted on 05/02/2006 2:10:38 PM PDT by RushCrush (My car runs on bald eagle heads.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
The lesbian you speak of must understand that she can choose her immorality but she can't choose other people's response to it. I am sure her parents would welcome her back if she starts living right. They would rejoice, I'll bet you. But they should not have to ignore their beliefs for the relationship. Clearly you do not expect the daughter to ignore her lust for women in order to restore the relationship? Why should the parents have to ignore their principles? It works both ways.

"Principles" don't amount to a hill of beans if one ignores the great commandment: love others as I have loved you.

Parents who turn their back on a gay child need to grow up and learn what love really is.

72 posted on 05/02/2006 2:10:52 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: bobbdobbs

Not entirely. I would equate the sheep with the homo thing. Both are totally unnatural. The child thing is even more disgusting to me because you are talking about someone too young to consent -- a victim. But premises are premises. If morality doesn't count then all three are morally equivalent. Age of consent is a moral restraint. You have no right to judge it otherwise.


73 posted on 05/02/2006 2:10:59 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: dead
Her mother must have already known John Kerry and John Edwards back then.

Excellent post.

74 posted on 05/02/2006 2:11:29 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Is tractus pro pensio.)
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To: MineralMan

I know someone, very conservative, whose (adult) child is homosexual. The parent would love to maintain contact but the child refuses to maintain a relationship solely because of the parent's "homophobia" even though the parent never, ever even brings up the topic.

In fact, other members of the family refuse to speak or write to this person because they are intolerant of "homophobia". Even though the parent in question never, ever mentions anything about homosexuality.

So the shoe can be on the other foot as well.


75 posted on 05/02/2006 2:12:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions

I didn't say they were going to hell or heaven. I just asked you if it will matter.


76 posted on 05/02/2006 2:12:20 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: conserv13

Well, I'm the mom of a gay daughter. It was a sad and tormented day that she was outed (against her will by a little high school punk)I had a fit, a tantrum, I cried and I screamed and then I calmed down, I accepted it and now we are as close as ever. I'm not Cher, and we wont be having a bunch of family dinners and when she's in my home she respects my beliefs on the subject. But the real story is that she's my precious (big) baby and you always love your kids.


77 posted on 05/02/2006 2:13:57 PM PDT by mpackard
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To: little jeremiah
The situation with Alan Keyes and his daughter is not parallel. IIRC, his daughter is very rebellious in other ways as well.

You're right, but then no two situations are completely alike. I was just trying to say that the Cheneys were much more supportive than other parents in similar situations.

I have several gay friends who are good people. I don't like the 'in your face' gays but generally they don't bother me.

78 posted on 05/02/2006 2:15:41 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: mpackard

Gotta be said, so I'll say it. You did the right thing. I know a lot of gay folks who were tossed from their homes. Although many have become quite successful, they still have the scars.


80 posted on 05/02/2006 2:18:06 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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