Posted on 05/02/2006 10:21:15 AM PDT by Tolik
Uno De Mayo has come and gone with none of the predicted effects – no drastic plunge in retail sales, no nationwide economic earthquake, the only businesses shut down the ones that agreed to do so beforehand. But still we’re assured the marchers have “made their point”. We can probably be excused for thinking that the point would have been made if only three marchers had bothered to show up. This is one of those issues where the media has made up its mind and is going to shove the correct interpretation down the throats of the booboisie no matter what it takes. That being the case, the stories and headlines could have been written a week ago – and possibly were.
Three conclusions can be drawn about the events of Monday:
- that the campaign has very deep and so far unidentified sources of funds and organization;
- that the usual-suspect Leftist organizations (E.g., International ANSWER) are involved up to their ears;
- that the fight is eminently winnable.
The Left usually does well with issues that remain distant from the daily life of the average voter. Take global warming and related environmental issues – the topic is esoteric, the data opaque, none of it is easily understood without advanced training. So the average citizen feels comfortable repeating even the most outlandish conclusions. Now take a look at something closer to home: Iraq and the war on terror. Many people know someone directly affected either by terror attacks or the war itself. The information is processed on a gut level, involving the most deeply held convictions. As a result, the Left, despite massive efforts, has been unable to push support much lower than an even 50%. The same is true of immigration. There is not a element of daily life that it fails to touch: jobs, the economy, the neighborhood, crime. It matters in the most basic sense, and for that reason is not easily subject to manipulation by opinion elites.
Virtually every move the crowd and its supporters have made – the flags, the debased anthem (it was actually made by a Brit) and this Peronist general strike – seems designed to antagonize this country’s middle class, which must be persuaded before anything can be accomplished. Do these people ever learn?
So now the line is drawn. A nation has a right to ask three things of immigrants:
- that they obey the law;
- that they learn the language;
- that they respect the citizenry.
We have a large illegal immigrant population in which many feel obligated to fulfill none of these.
No one seriously wishes these people ill, or wants to deny them an opportunity to better themselves, particularly considering the social and economic conditions many of them have fled. But it cannot be denied that guests, particularly uninvited ones, are not in a position to make demands. The sooner we get that straight, the sooner we can move on to a just and fair solution.
Wasn't this also part of the lesson to be learned yesterday?
1. America help us..we made our own homeland stink
2. We do not take care of our homeland so it is now rotten
3. We have elected corrupt rotten officials who now are a burden and torment to us
4. We refuse to have hope or stay home and fix things
5. We have made no future for ourselves in our own land it is too difficult in our homeland..the USA is much more easier
6. We won't grow food in our country to feed ourselves
7. We can not figure out how to make our country prosperous so there are jobs there (other than the thousands the gringos have built in our homeland..but they wont hire us..but we did not study in school so arent skilled enough to be useful in our own country)
8. We refuse to take responsibility for anything wrong with our lives, drugs,prostitution,murder,rape,theft, kidnapping,drug addiction,gangs,all bad things non of which are our responsibility or fault
9.Are own leaders,our own lands,our own homes are not worth trusting...because we do not fix anything,we just move into el norte where by violence,and protest we can take your homes your land and your government and simply take over all of yours because you are too weak to hold it...to keep it and too stupid and lazy to defend your own homeland...in that sense you Americans are far far more corrupt than any other peoples in the world..
10. You will simply lay down and let us do whatever it is we feel like doing to you...and yours
11. Even you fear your own government so much and value your own possessions so much non of you dare to even make the first move against us...for fear your government will take from you what you have...so you cower at home...or stand on the street waving silly flags made in China the same ones we bought at Walmart to wave at you while we take what you are too weak and corrupt to defend...
12. Passive aggression...we defeat you without firing a shot because you are weak and corrupt in the heart...
13.Your own leaders have invited us and encouraged us..your president wants us here...and does not care what anyone things or wants except for his friends like our president Fox
14. We are strong...and united...more so than any Americans and we proved to ourselves and to you and to your corrupt officials who cower and bow before us...and do not honor you and you are too weak to anything about that either...
15. We will take over your country...your land,your homes,your children will wish to become Mexicans and disdain all things pale and European...
16. In the end we will be the biggest union of all and will then dictate wages,and benefits,and all terms of employment will rest with 'The Workers and not the owners of the means of production'
17. America will at last become the new workers of the new world paradise
That's more along the lines of what we should have learned yesterday but we didn't
imo
How many you got?
Sure, if you are a socialist who thinks that the United States exists only to support the dregs of the world.
Here's another lession learned. It matters not how many times you write your State Representative or what you say. Simply saying "Bite me." WILL get you the exact same form letter.
Close enough.
The Fox in the Mexican henhouse banks on those illegals bringing the money back to his economy. The illegals should punish Fox and stay in Mexico.
I agree to a point. But I think that the citizens of the countries (the Entrometidos we are currently absorbing) suffer from even greater voter-disenfranchisement than the American voter. So, while it is up to them to do something about their own countries' ills, they perhaps are even less able to do so than we are. Look how little gets done in our own country when it comes to, say, reining in appointed judges, getting the truth out of Washington, having our leaders seriously and sensibly engage in such issues as illegal immigration and border protection, etc.
Un-arrested alien criminals extort the government by means of tacit public threats in order to reach a result not desired by the citizenry. Mobocracy replaces Republican democracy and the band plays on.
Isn't it primero de mayo?
Wonderful piece! Succinct, polite, great.
Okay, I had to go back and look at my post, because I must not have been clear. I am not advocating for a second that the Entrometidos are entitled to a single thing from the U.S. I am, in fact, pointing out that they have come here because the there where they come from must have less to offer (I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt in determining that they've opted for an upgrade here.)
I'm not saying that it is up to the U.S. to help them out (though isn't that what we've been doing year after year after year with all the foreign aid, all the food, all the technology, all the resources we've exported during the last century or so?) It seems that in giving all that help, we have not achieved the goal (duh! think giving away...think give away...think LIBERAL). These folks come from lands with corrupted governments, or with an impoverished ideology which holds no solution for its people (the Entrometidos we are now talking about), or from just plain old third world status where they haven't gotten off the ground yet...I don't know. But they are leaving something to come to something else.
I am not in favor of them as they are here illegally...
I do not condone them as they are illegal...
I do not want them here because they have served notice that they do not abide by our laws
And neither do I hate them...(I just hate what they are doing to our nation and our national debate right now)
I don't think America exists to support the dregs of the world. I don't think America minds helping out others either. I do not think that all the Entrometidos that are here represent the dregs of their homelands. I do not think for a minute that there aren't some pretty rotten apples in the crowd, either. That's why they must all go and come back in through legal channels (quotas, limits, etc. permitting).
Recent conversation with a Liberal friend (out of his mind). I opened with worry about illegals/closing hospitals/welfare/overwhelming the country/so many in prison, gangs, drugs/terrorist infiltration because we haven't secured our borders. He said, and I kid you not: "We're a nation of immigrants, we're all immigrants. Where's the compassion? If they were Irish or English, you wouldn't care." He's a devoted NPR listener, too. But you guessed that already. The one issue that shut him up was when I asked if it was okay for illegals to work for slave wages, that surely this was immoral and that they were in fact indentured servants. He had no reply.
Sorry if I misunderstood you the first time.
I love that "We're a nation of immigrants," line. Yes, we are. We are a nation of legal immigrants...who, by the way left their lands to become American.
Now, who can find out what's missing from that last sentence? (Hint: It's what separates today's immigrants from yesterday's.)
"- that they obey the law; - that they learn the language;
- that they respect the citizenry."
Absolutamente!
Thank you for posting this great article.
No need to apologize...somehow, I think we're all, for the most part, on the same page here...at least those who've posted so far...
I think they were saying, "Move over, make way."
I printed at least a half dozen V.D. Hanson essays on the Mexican invasion and what it portends for the US and gave them to my Liberal friend. He promised to read them, but I doubt he will. He's gay, which I only mention because with him, everything's filtered through that one issue. He actually said that the US would be better off if they threw out the Constitution.
Why were they flying flags of different country's primarily mexico? If they truly believe that their home countries are a cesspool why do they continue to support them?
Isn't that the reason for most, if not all, immigration--the promise of something better?
Yes it was for both sets of my grandparents who came here for the better life. But they came legally. Like everyone who wants to come here should. If these Mexicans have the conjones to boycott and rally in American I suggest they go back home with the flag they love to wave here and fix things in their own country. We can not afford them. Our prisons are filled with illegals who deal drugs, are in violent gangs (gangs who support terrorists I may remind you like MS-13) rapists murders and so on. We have had schools and hospitals that have had to shut down. Sorry I have no feelings for people who knowingly break the law by coming here illegally. If they have no respect for our laws now do you think they will obey them later? Some of these Mexicans want us out of border states claiming we stole them. And who did they steal them from? Sure we need people like this coming here to cause trouble. I am sure there are many fine Mexicans who would be great Americans but they need to come here the right way. We need to secure the border ASAP. Oh yes, lets not forget about the idenity fraud that Mexicans are doing. One childs SS# was used hundreds of times. We need congress and our Pres to think carefully about what the American people want. And what is in the best interests of America. I will be damned if Mexicans will bully us. What about the other people who are trying to get here legally ? What does that show them about us? That a bunch of boycotts and rallies will force us to give them amnesty? This isnt what my father and uncles fought for. I am really disgusted with what I am seeing. Build the wall, deport and then lets screen anyone who wants to come in. Some homeland security we have.
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