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The Lesson of Uno de Mayo
The American Thinker ^ | May 2nd, 2006 | J.R. Dunn

Posted on 05/02/2006 10:21:15 AM PDT by Tolik

Uno De Mayo has come and gone with none of the predicted effects – no drastic plunge in retail sales, no nationwide economic earthquake, the only businesses shut down the ones that agreed to do so beforehand.  But still we’re assured the marchers have “made their point”.     We can probably be excused for thinking that the point would have been made if only three marchers had bothered to show up. This is one of those issues where the media has made up its mind and is going to shove the correct interpretation down the throats of the booboisie no matter what it takes. That being the case, the stories and headlines could have been written a week ago – and possibly were.

Three conclusions can be drawn about the events of  Monday:

- that the campaign has very deep and so far unidentified sources of funds and organization;

- that the usual-suspect Leftist organizations (E.g., International ANSWER) are involved up to their ears;

- that the fight is eminently winnable.

The Left usually does well with issues that remain distant from the daily life of the average voter. Take global warming and related environmental issues – the topic is esoteric, the data opaque, none of it is easily understood without advanced training. So the average citizen feels comfortable repeating even the most outlandish conclusions. Now take a look at something closer to home: Iraq and the war on terror. Many people know someone directly affected either by terror attacks or the war itself. The information is processed on a gut level, involving the most deeply held convictions. As a result, the Left, despite massive efforts, has been unable to push support much lower than an even 50%. The same is true of immigration. There is not a element of daily life that it fails to touch: jobs, the economy, the neighborhood, crime. It matters in the most basic sense, and for that reason is not easily subject to manipulation by opinion elites. 

Virtually every move the crowd and its supporters have made – the flags, the debased anthem (it was actually made by a Brit) and this Peronist general strike – seems designed to antagonize this country’s middle class, which must be persuaded before anything can be accomplished. Do these people ever learn?

So now the line is drawn. A nation has a right to ask three things of immigrants:

- that they obey the law;

- that they learn the language;

- that they respect the citizenry.

We have a large illegal immigrant population in which many feel obligated to fulfill none of these.

No one seriously wishes these people ill, or wants to deny them an opportunity to better themselves, particularly considering the social and economic conditions many of them have fled. But it cannot be denied that guests, particularly uninvited ones, are not in a position to make demands. The sooner we get that straight, the sooner we can move on to a just and fair solution. 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalalien; illegalimmigrant; illegalimmigration; immigrant; immigrantlist; immigration; jrdunn; lessons; unodemayo
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To: Tolik

Thank you Tolik for your interesting articles !


121 posted on 05/02/2006 4:14:36 PM PDT by traumer
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To: potlatch
I know. It's very troubling. It appears, there is more on the NWO, out on the net, than ever before. There are no hidden meanings, or names of actors/players being withheld! I'm amazed at the double talk, and mirrors being used.

"I would like to know WHY Bush or any others would want this to happen."

I believe, anything of this magnitude, has power and wealth as the First Order of Business, America is second or third.

122 posted on 05/02/2006 4:20:48 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Smartass

You're right, there is a lot more talk about it in the past month.

Good that people are becoming more aware of it and it must shock them, the way it did me a couple of years ago, when I was first learning some of this stuff.


123 posted on 05/02/2006 5:00:41 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Funny you should mention that. My daughter lives fairly close to the border and once when I was down there I drove about 25 miles further south to go to a Walmart.

When I walked into the store I was astounded by dirty and stained carpeting, clothes and clothes hangers all over the floor.

The real surprise came when I went into the 'arts and crafts' section to buy some tubes of fabric paint to decorate T-shirts.

Almost every tube of paint had been opened and there were squiggles of it painted all over the shelves and 'backboard' behind the display!! Amazing!


124 posted on 05/02/2006 5:14:42 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch; AmericanInTokyo; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; devolve; OXENinFLA; bitt; La Enchiladita; ...
A brief history lesson.
Mexico was defeated militarily, and among other things, the Southwest was paid for! Take that Mr. Tony Valdez of KTTV Los Angeles, and shove it!



Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo

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The Mexican Cession (red) and the Gadsden Purchase (orange)
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The Mexican Cession (red) and the Gadsden Purchase (orange)

The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was the peace treaty that ended the Mexican-American War (1846–1848). The treaty provided for the Mexican Cession, in which Mexico ceded 1.36 million km² (525,000 square miles) to the United States in exchange for USD$15 million. The United States also agreed to take over $3.25 million in debts Mexico owed to American citizens.

The cession included parts of the modern-day U.S. states of Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, and Wyoming, as well as the whole of California, Nevada, and Utah. The remaining parts of what are today the states of Arizona and New Mexico were later ceded under the 1853 Gadsden Purchase.

The treaty was signed by Nicholas P. Trist on behalf of the United States and three plenipotentiary representatives of Mexico on February 2, 1848, at the Villa of Guadalupe (today Gustavo A. Madero, D.F.), slightly north of Mexico City. It was subsequently ratified by the United States Senate on March 10 and by the Mexican government on May 19; the countries' ratifications were duly exchanged on May 30, 1848, at the city of Santiago de Querétaro.


125 posted on 05/02/2006 5:47:01 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Smartass

There you go! I knew I had just read this recently and it was in an email. Texas was not part of the 'Union' at that time, considered a country of its own I guess.

This needs to be posted often. THE UNITED STATES PAID MEXICO FOR THE LAND!!


126 posted on 05/02/2006 5:53:11 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; devolve; OXENinFLA; bitt; La Enchiladita; JustPiper; kstewskis; ...
"There you go! I knew I had just read this recently and it was in an email. Texas was not part of the 'Union' at that time, considered a country of its own I guess."

"This needs to be posted often. THE UNITED STATES PAID MEXICO FOR THE LAND!!"




Republic of Texas

Republic of Texas. The present-day outlines of the U.S. states are superimposed on the boundaries of 1836–1845
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Republic of Texas. The present-day outlines of the U.S. states are superimposed on the boundaries of 1836–1845

The first declaration of independence for modern Texas, by both Anglo-Texan settlers and local Tejanos, was signed in Goliad on December 20, 1835. The Texas Declaration of Independence was enacted at Washington-on-the-Brazos on March 2, 1836, effectively creating the Republic of Texas.

Four days later, the two-week long Battle of the Alamo ended as Mexican General Antonio López de Santa Anna's forces defeated the nearly 200 Texans defending the small mission (which would eventually become the center of the city of San Antonio). Remember the Alamo! became the battle cry of the Texas Revolution. The Battle of San Jacinto was fought on April 21, 1836, near the present-day city of Houston. General Santa Anna's entire force of 1,600 men was killed or captured by Texas General Sam Houston's army of 800 Texans; only nine Texans died. This decisive battle resulted in Texas' independence from Mexico.

Sam Houston, a native of Virginia, was President of the Republic of Texas for two separate terms, 1836–1838 and 1841–1844. He also was Governor of the state of Texas from 1859 to 1861.

The first Congress of the Republic of Texas convened in October 1836 at Columbia (now West Columbia). Stephen F. Austin, known as the Father of Texas, died December 27, 1836, after serving two months as Secretary of State for the new Republic.

In 1836, five sites served as temporary capitals of Texas (Washington-on-the-Brazos, Harrisburg, Galveston, Velasco and Columbia) before Sam Houston moved the capital to Houston in 1837. In 1839, the capital was moved to the new town of Austin.

Internal politics of the Republic were based on the conflict between two factions. The nationalist faction, led by Mirabeau B. Lamar advocated the continued independence of Texas, the expulsion of the Native Americans, and the expansion of Texas to the Pacific Ocean. Their opponents, led by Sam Houston, advocated the annexation of Texas to the United States and peaceful coexistence with Native Americans.

The first flag of the republic was the "Burnet Flag" (a gold star on an azure field), followed shortly thereafter by official adoption of the Lone Star Flag.

The Republic received diplomatic recognition from the United States, France, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and the Republic of Yucatán.


127 posted on 05/02/2006 6:00:21 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Smartass

LOL, I think you've educated me for the day! By tomorrow I'll have forgotten all dates and most names!

Selective memory I believe.


128 posted on 05/02/2006 6:37:52 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Tolik

Yep - they've made their point. Now let's box 'em up and ship 'em out - drop shipped if necessary.


129 posted on 05/02/2006 6:40:47 PM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Tolik
The Left usually does well with issues that remain distant from the daily life of the average voter. Take global warming and related environmental issues – the topic is esoteric, the data opaque, none of it is easily understood without advanced training.

Right on target!

130 posted on 05/02/2006 7:13:55 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: potlatch
Those two articles were posted, to show that the Southwest was fought, won and paid for by America.   Also, that Tony Valdez of KTTV, channel 11 Los Angeles is full of stale rotten beans and rice.   His lack of history rant to John and Ken of Los Angeles, exposed his biased and perverted Aztlan mentality.   The John and Ken show have been staunchly opposed to illegal immigration, and are frequently taunted and threatened by left wing separatists.

131 posted on 05/02/2006 7:57:13 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Ladysmith

Read post 105, then there are several other beneath it that are well worth reading too.

This is a very good thread.


132 posted on 05/02/2006 8:02:54 PM PDT by Supernatural (I used to care but things have changed.)
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To: Smartass; potlatch; devolve; PhilDragoo

Last night's PBS American Experience was about the history leading up to the Battle of the Alamo, and Texas' independence, then addition to the Union. This gentleman's story was featured, Jose Antonio Navarro.

http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/treasures/giants/navarro/navarro-01.html


133 posted on 05/02/2006 8:17:52 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: roverman2K6

have you seen this?


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1625726/posts


134 posted on 05/02/2006 8:22:02 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: auntyfemenist

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1625726/posts

pretty much says it all!


135 posted on 05/02/2006 8:23:11 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: ntnychik; potlatch
Thanks Chik...
Lots of rich history on the Southwest, and especially the battle for Texas.

It just burns me up, when a misplaced thinking person, like Tony Valdez attempts to convolute, and distort historical facts.

136 posted on 05/02/2006 8:27:19 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: gubamyster

Thanks for the ping. Great article. BTTT!


137 posted on 05/02/2006 8:44:35 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: MarDav

>>Weren't those demonstrating ilegales really saying, "America, help us! Our own countries stink! They are rotten! They are full of lousy governments! They are full of hopeless conditions! They are lands with no hope! They are places with no futures! Our own countries don't have enough food to feed us, jobs to occupy us, hospitals to take care of us, schools to educate us. They are cesspools reeking from wasted lives because those lives lack opportunity! Help us, America! Help us! Our own leaders, our own lands, our own homes are not worth trusting, are not worth staying on, are not worth living in. Please, help us!"<<

Then WHY in the HELL were they waving Mexican flags, until they were coached otherwise?

HMMMMMM?

They want to turn my country into the stinking craphole they left, and are on their way to doing it.

No, on second thought, they are angrily marching and demanding DEMANDING it.

One lesson they should have taken away is one that every American has to learn: "Nobody OWES you anything."

Think that one over.



138 posted on 05/02/2006 8:52:43 PM PDT by DC Ripper
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
Boycott Hispanic businesses here

WHOA! Not all Hispanic business owners are pro-illegal immigration, and many, like me and my immediate and extended family, are in fact conservative and anti-illegal immigration. Didn't Rep. Henry Bonilla vote FOR the house border security bill?

An approach like yours, which boycotts a business solely based on ethnicity of the owners, is rather UN-American.

139 posted on 05/02/2006 8:57:49 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (The GOP should not fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty.)
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To: Kimberly GG; All

when calling the Jr. Senator's office in MA to complain about his position on illegal aliens, you are directed to his female "special aide" who just happens to speak in heavily accented English and has a Spanish last name. Must be Teresa's former maid. Or sister.


140 posted on 05/02/2006 9:12:58 PM PDT by bitt ("guests, particularly uninvited ones, are not in a position to make demands...")
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