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Giuliani Shows a Candidate's Mettle to Republicans in Iowa
NY Times ^ | 5/2/6 | Patrick Healy

Posted on 05/02/2006 9:42:32 AM PDT by Crackingham

Former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said on Monday that he was seriously exploring whether he has "a chance" of winning the presidency in 2008, as he visited politically important Iowa and huddled with state advisers, donors to President Bush and other prominent Republicans. While Mr. Giuliani was officially in Iowa to attend two Republican fund-raisers, his behavior and remarks came close to politicking for himself. He ruminated openly about running, disclosed he was not sure what he would do if his friend John McCain also ran, and argued that if Republicans are to be a majority party, they need to accept politicians like himself who support abortion rights, gay rights and gun control.

"I've got a lot of places to go and a lot of people to talk to and a long process of figuring out whether it makes sense to run for president in 2008," Mr. Giuliani said before speaking at a daytime fund-raiser in Des Moines for a Republican congressional candidate. "I don't know the answer to that yet."

He added: "My effort this year will be to help Republicans get elected, and then, quite honestly, as part of it, saying to myself, does it look like I have a chance in 2008? And make that decision after the 2006 election."

At a fund-raiser in Davenport on Monday night, Mr. Giuliani offered a stout defense of President Bush's leadership, arguing that the economy was growing and that Mr. Bush would go down in history as "a great president."

"I don't know what we're all so upset about," he said, referring to concerns about the economy and rising costs, such as gas prices.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
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To: Gelato; EternalVigilance
Allen's camp seems woefully unprepared in the preseason.

Oooh...I'm all askeered now, 'cause you two know about the preseason.

You've never gotten beyond it.

181 posted on 05/03/2006 10:51:02 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: EternalVigilance
I fully intend on speaking with Senator Allen at one of his campaign functions this year. I fully intend on asking him what his exact, unambiguous position on abortion is.
I will post that response here.
182 posted on 05/03/2006 10:56:08 AM PDT by jla
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To: Corin Stormhands
You've never gotten beyond it.

Only a few ever do.

But, on any given Sunday...

183 posted on 05/03/2006 10:58:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: jla

That would be excellent.

Make him be very explicit. ;-)


184 posted on 05/03/2006 10:59:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: Gelato

"Quality of life", eh...

That's a remarkable quote.


185 posted on 05/03/2006 11:00:46 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: Gelato
"Reason I look at it that way is that I looked legally in my own heart and also emotionally in my own heart and mind of what makes sense.

Sheesh.

We're supposed to base national policy affecting God-given, unalienable rights on one man's "feelings"?

I hadn't seen that quote. It's incredibly telling.

186 posted on 05/03/2006 11:03:11 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: Gelato
...legally in my own heart...

I'm still scratching my head over that one.

187 posted on 05/03/2006 11:04:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: Gelato

Source?


188 posted on 05/03/2006 11:05:01 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Oooh...I'm all askeered now, 'cause you two know about the preseason. You've never gotten beyond it.

We're in the preseason now, bub.

You all are rooting for a guy who's going to cost Republicans the Super Bowl.

189 posted on 05/03/2006 11:14:54 AM PDT by Gelato
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To: Crackingham

If Guiliani doesn't get more serious than what he is doing now he'll never have a chance. McLame already is hiring political people in the first primary states which takes time. Rudy doesn't have an organization, he can't win without one.


190 posted on 05/03/2006 11:16:37 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Gelato; EternalVigilance
You all are rooting for a guy who's going to cost Republicans the Super Bowl.

AGAIN with the football analogies?!?!?!?!

Did you even play?

191 posted on 05/03/2006 11:16:50 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: EternalVigilance
The source:

2000 U.S. Senatorial Debate - Transcript
October 22, 2000, NBC 12 Richmond, Va.
Moderator: Larry J. Sabato
Candidates: Chuck Robb (D), George Allen (R)

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/programs/debates/00_transcript.htm

192 posted on 05/03/2006 11:17:38 AM PDT by Gelato
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To: Corin Stormhands
AGAIN with the football analogies?!?!?!?!

Exactly my reaction every time I hear George Allen speak.

Football analogies do get annoying, don't they?

193 posted on 05/03/2006 11:18:56 AM PDT by Gelato
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To: Gelato
Football analogies do get annoying, don't they?

No, but you do.

194 posted on 05/03/2006 11:22:41 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Gelato

Thank you!


195 posted on 05/03/2006 11:23:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: Gelato

LOL...


196 posted on 05/03/2006 11:23:49 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: 1Old Pro

My friends in NH tell me that McCain is dead meat up there.

Just because he won there in 2000 doesn't mean he can again.

He's got one key guy in Iowa, but the vast majority of the activists can't stand him.


197 posted on 05/03/2006 11:26:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Make him be very explicit

I fully intend to, respectfully, press him on the issue.

198 posted on 05/03/2006 11:26:45 AM PDT by jla
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To: jla

Good luck with that.


199 posted on 05/03/2006 11:28:18 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Oh, I see.

Only George Allen is permitted to use football analogies ad nauseam.

I must put that in my rulebook.

200 posted on 05/03/2006 11:28:45 AM PDT by Gelato
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