Sorry, I just can't keep up. 
Posted on 05/02/2006 9:42:32 AM PDT by Crackingham
Former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said on Monday that he was seriously exploring whether he has "a chance" of winning the presidency in 2008, as he visited politically important Iowa and huddled with state advisers, donors to President Bush and other prominent Republicans. While Mr. Giuliani was officially in Iowa to attend two Republican fund-raisers, his behavior and remarks came close to politicking for himself. He ruminated openly about running, disclosed he was not sure what he would do if his friend John McCain also ran, and argued that if Republicans are to be a majority party, they need to accept politicians like himself who support abortion rights, gay rights and gun control.
"I've got a lot of places to go and a lot of people to talk to and a long process of figuring out whether it makes sense to run for president in 2008," Mr. Giuliani said before speaking at a daytime fund-raiser in Des Moines for a Republican congressional candidate. "I don't know the answer to that yet."
He added: "My effort this year will be to help Republicans get elected, and then, quite honestly, as part of it, saying to myself, does it look like I have a chance in 2008? And make that decision after the 2006 election."
At a fund-raiser in Davenport on Monday night, Mr. Giuliani offered a stout defense of President Bush's leadership, arguing that the economy was growing and that Mr. Bush would go down in history as "a great president."
"I don't know what we're all so upset about," he said, referring to concerns about the economy and rising costs, such as gas prices.
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Not true and you know it.
I've spent hours providing for you the Senator's statements regarding abortion, immigration and the 2nd Amendment (the latter with P8riot's help).
YOU ignore the facts. YOU ignore the records.
We KNOW what your agenda is here EV. We just don't know who's paying you.
Your FR history is miles long.
Since you Left the GOP™ why don't you go nominate the candidate for YOUR party. Surely the banks are open on the left coast by now.
Both Georges have the same rhetoric on illegal immigration.
"Our reforms should be guided by a few basic principles. First, America must control its borders." -- George W. Bush
"Comprehensive immigration reform begins with securing our borders." -- George W. Bush
"I don't think that we ought to be passing anything that rewards illegal behavior or amnesty." -- George Allen
"For the sake of justice and for the sake of border security, I firmly oppose amnesty." -- George W. Bush
"I oppose amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship. Granting amnesty encourages the violation of our laws, and perpetuates illegal immigration. America is a welcoming country, but citizenship must not be the automatic reward for violating the laws of America." -- George W. Bush
"It may be several years down the road or months down the road - we can get a consensus on how you handle a good temporary worker system." -- George Allen
"We need a guest worker program to fill the needs of employers. The guest workers must be checked out and have background checks, so we know they aren't terrorists or criminals. We also need to expand seasonal visas for people who come just to work and not to live here. We also need to make it easier for people who come here legally to become citizens." -- George Allen
"The vast majority of people coming into this country, even if they are coming in here illegally, want to work. They want a better life for their families, but we need to match up those employers and entrepreneurs in this country who can't find Americans to fill a job." -- George Allen
"The United States Senate is debating a very vital issue for our country, and that is immigration reform. I urge the senators to continue to work toward getting a comprehensive bill; a bill that will help us secure our borders; a bill that will cause the people in the interior of this country to recognize and enforce the law; and a bill that will include a guest worker provision that will enable us to more secure the border, will recognize that there are people here working hard for jobs Americans won't do, and a guest worker provision that is not amnesty, one that provides for automatic citizenship." -- George W. Bush
Yeah, right.
Perhaps you could, once, explain "brain waves", abortions til "viability", abortions for "fetal abnormality", virtual imaginary fences, guest workers, Ed Gillespie, long-time support for the "Assault Weapons Ban", and federal spending without end, eh?
A) I'm currently in the GOP.
B) I'm not currently in CA, as you assume, simply because my page is set there. The Golden State just happens to be ground zero in the invasion of our country from the south. You Allen supporters would do well to pay more attention to that.
Sorry, I just can't keep up.
If someone was paying me, you'd know about it.
How many posters on FR are being paid by Senator Allen, or the RNC, or affiliated organizations or companies, do you think?
My agenda is to get a real conservative as the leader of our party in 2008, not one who panders right and left and makes his decisions based on focus groups and polls.
Would you rather I wasn't in the GOP?
I always have to laugh at the spectacle of RINOs and GOP hacks trying to drive conservatives out of the party. It's so funny that they think that's how they build the Republican coalition and win national elections.
Conservatives I've talked to are also baffled when faced with Allen's pro-choice leanings and Bush-like rhetoric. They all assumed he was pro-life, and "felt" he was strong on the borders.
George Allen's abortion position would extend the right to life only to the unborn who have reached a "quality of life." He supports legalized abortion for fetal abnormalities, rape and incest, and all babies up until "viability."
George Allen's borders rhetoric mirrors G.W. Bush's. "We need a guest worker program to fill the needs of employers," says Allen. He has said a guest worker program is a vital part of border security. Last December, Allen dismissed an actual fence as not "worthy of consideration," and that mere unmanned aircraft to watch the border would suffice.
What's baffling is that so many have been duped for so long into believing Allen is a conservative leader.
It's amazing, you talk and EV's lips move.
That's pretty funny, coming from someone who had to call in P8triot to pretend to answer concerns about George Allen's longtime support for the Assault Weapons Ban.
Whatever that means.
Anything of substance to add in reply to my post?
Or are diversion tactics all you've got?
McCarthyism??
ROFL...
I'm afraid that's all they've got.
Given a choice between McCain or Rudy...Rudy is the only choice. I see McCain getting most of the big money and contolling the primary season by himself. The only guy that can hold McCain down...is Rudy.
"Reason I look at it that way is that I looked legally in my own heart and also emotionally in my own heart and mind of what makes sense. We look at the end of life when people don't have a beating heart. They're brain dead. They're not sensitive to shock and touch.
"It seemed to me it would be a good criteria when there would be a compelling end. Now when 24 would occur there are those that will say it is eight weeks and a few days and maybe ten weeks and a few days. That's not the point. It is not a time. It is a quality of development of life that I think that if the state so desired they could protect that unborn child."
Swell.
Worse than a Bob Dole candidacy.
NY Slime article.
A homosexual staffed newspaper seeking to push a pro-homosexual candidate.
No way, no how, not going to happen.
Zero dollars outside the deviant circles and political poison to those who do contribute.
West of the Hudson here, and Guiliani is a favorite.
Or any of a hundred or so reasonable conservatives with national name ID who can chew gum and walk straight at the same time.
I suppose that's been a working strategy for the Allen folks up until now.
Unfortunately, presidential politics is a different ballgame. The deeper you get into it, the more you must be able to stand up to scrutiny and solidify the base. You know, it's a "team" effort.
Allen's camp seems woefully unprepared in the preseason.
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