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Danforth: Ban on gay marriage a silly idea
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 30, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/30/2006 4:25:57 PM PDT by DBeers

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To: TexasTransplant
I just thought of a couple more issues that he could lend his Name to, "Undoing the Ban on Mining Low Sulfur Coal in Utah, Windmills off of Massachusetts coast and Incarcerating Joe Wilson".

Many more issues are more important.

TT
41 posted on 04/30/2006 5:12:32 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: DBeers

I do think that such a proposed amendment constitutes yet another frivilous abuse of the amendment process.


42 posted on 04/30/2006 5:13:04 PM PDT by EveningStar (EXCELSIOR!)
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To: DBeers

Memo to Danforth: Then why if one could marry the same sex why not marry yourself. There is an appropriate expression for this sexual activity.


43 posted on 04/30/2006 5:13:18 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: DBeers

Thank God he's a "former" Senator.


44 posted on 04/30/2006 5:14:58 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: JohnnyZ
I hadn't heard anything anti-Bush about him, but it would not surprise me that the two disagreed about some things. (I looked it up and he criticized the current/recent foreign policy.) Strong thinkers will always disagree with politicians (and with each other) about something.

He was for the Iraq war, before he was against it.

45 posted on 04/30/2006 5:15:38 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: John Geyer

"Thou art a Priest forever after the order of Melchizedek". Psalm 110, verse 4

That is true; however, it doesn't mean the individual priest remains orthodox in his belief, faith and practice. Danforth is becoming an apostate if not already there.


46 posted on 04/30/2006 5:15:54 PM PDT by miele man
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To: Joan Kerrey
It is a state issue until another state gives them rights and the courts go along with it.
47 posted on 04/30/2006 5:16:48 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: spikeytx86
What happens when the democrats regain control in which will happen someday whether this year or decades from now it WILL happen...

ROTFLMAO!!!!

48 posted on 04/30/2006 5:17:00 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
I don't know what rock he just crawled out from under but the whole reason this amendment is necessary is for the judges, not the people.

Right

49 posted on 04/30/2006 5:17:43 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: DBeers

In other words: Whatever happens, this issue simply cannot be entrusted to actual voters.


50 posted on 04/30/2006 5:17:44 PM PDT by Radix (Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
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To: Joan Kerrey

Same sex "marriage" adds nothing to what practicing homosexuals can already do. No one prohibits anyone from living together in a relationship with whomever they want. This well-orchestrated campaign to redefine the word "marriage" to be something it has never been in any country or any culture until now has nothing to do with adding rights to homosexuals, but instead is all about giving government support and promotion to homosexual activity. People in a free country have a right to have different views on the morality of homosexual activity. The government has no business promoting it through civil same sex "marriage" or pro-homosexual indoctrination in public schools. And believe me, the anti-traditional religious believers in the Left in this country would be more than happy to toss out First Amendment freedoms of those who morally object to homosexual activity or same sex "marriage" and impose criminal "hate" speech laws that are already on the books in Canada and many countries of Europe.


51 posted on 04/30/2006 5:18:52 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: DBeers
That is going on the Christmas cards!
52 posted on 04/30/2006 5:19:07 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: DBeers

Episcopal priest, says it all.

Danforth is a fool and has no knowledge of the law.

I think this isue will be won and lost with the staffers who are in the sphere of our politicians. We need to keep the fire on them on this one.


53 posted on 04/30/2006 5:19:20 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DBeers

Without a doubt it is an abomination. However, the American population seems to have no ability to resist any form of degradation. The collapse started circa 1954-1960 and is accelerating. Since we cannot fight then try to stay out of the way.


54 posted on 04/30/2006 5:22:12 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: DBeers

I loathe that man.


55 posted on 04/30/2006 5:22:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: spikeytx86

The amendment as proposed would only address marriage on a Federal level. States, if they desire, could recognize a homosexual "marriage" but would prevent one state's recognition from forcing another to recognize it.

Without the amendment, a resident of Mass. could engage in a homosexual "marriage" and then move to Texas or Georgia, and through the courts, demand the state of Texas or Georgia recognize this "marriage" and provide it the legal protections or rights real marriage would bestow on its participants.

The amendment prevents this nightmare scenario.

But why should the federal government only want to recognize a heterosexual marriage. Because civil marriage (not religious but purely civil marriage) is a legal contract between three parties: the man, the woman, and the state. The state is party to the marriage (by providing legal and tax benefits to the couple) because it gets something out of the marriage, namely a new generation to perpetuate the state. Would children be born without civil marriage? Sure, but look at any inner city to see the mess that occurs when children are not raised in a traditional households.

The fact of the matter is normal families are more likely to produce healthy, responsible children that will lead this society in the future. Hence the state has a stake in marriage, and is party to the contract. Since homosexuals cannot produce children, it is wrong for the state to engage in this contract. The state derives no benefit from homosexual marriage.


56 posted on 04/30/2006 5:25:48 PM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: EveningStar
I do think that such a proposed amendment constitutes yet another frivilous abuse of the amendment process.

Tell that to Massachusetts. Clearly judges will impose their will unless we spell it out for them in the Constitution. Those state judges twisted their state's constiution to mean whatever THEY wanted it to mean. The phrases they manipulated were the same ones you will find in the U.S. Constitution. And they cited the Supreme Court Lawrence decision. So no way will this matter be decided by state legislatures unless we somehow push the judges out of the legislating business. That's all this amendment does.

Personally I prefer impeaching judges for this grave violation of their constitutional limits.

Ultimately, there is no way you can have something like this legal in one state without it affecting everyone. What is their marital status for federal tax purposes? What about federal benefits? What about when they move? The definition of family is just too fundamental to think you can have states with different definitions. How about Utah with legal polygamy? It's only fair that they be unbound from their requirement of banning the practice way back when they joined the union.

57 posted on 04/30/2006 5:31:11 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If you want to break the little influence that the Main Street people have on congress, defeat Mike Castle.


58 posted on 04/30/2006 5:31:16 PM PDT by John Geyer
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
...rouge judges have legislated from the bench and miraculously discovered a clause that gays and lesbians can be married.

Great typo:)

59 posted on 04/30/2006 5:31:18 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: dpa5923
I'm not for same sex marriage, but I am deeply hesitant about ordaining the feds with such power. I am also skeptical we could get enough votes or states ever.
60 posted on 04/30/2006 5:31:41 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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