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Danforth: Ban on gay marriage a silly idea
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 30, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/30/2006 4:25:57 PM PDT by DBeers

Danforth: Ban on Gay Marriage a Silly Idea

WASHINGTON — Former Sen. John Danforth says a conservative push to ban gay marriage through a constitutional amendment is silly, calling it the latest example of how the political influence of evangelical Christians is hurting the GOP.

Danforth, a Missouri Republican and an Episcopal priest, made the comments in a speech Saturday night to the Log Cabin Republicans, which support gay rights. He said history has shown that attempts to regulate human behavior with constitutional amendments are misguided.

"Once before, the Constitution was amended to try to deal with matters of human behavior; that was prohibition. That was such a flop that that was repealed 13 years later," Danforth said.

Referring to the marriage amendment, he added that perhaps at some point in history there was a constitutional amendment proposed that was "sillier than this one, but I don't know of one."

The Senate is scheduled to vote in June on a constitutional amendment that its supporters hope will head off any decision in the federal courts that could legalize gay marriage. The measure would need to be approved by two-thirds of those voting in the House and Senate and then be ratified by at least 38 state legislatures.

But Danforth said he is opposed. "The basic concept of the Republican Party is to interpret the Constitution narrowly, not expansively, so that legislatures, and especially state legislatures, can work out over a period of time the social issues in our country," he said.


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To: DBeers
Danforth you nitwit...this is fundamental to who we are as a people.
21 posted on 04/30/2006 4:46:21 PM PDT by Drango (No electrons were harmed in this posting. Several however, were inconvenienced.)
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To: DBeers
Genuine issues facing the US, US Security, US Sovereignty, Energy Independence, Securing the Borders, Drilling ANWR, Drilling off of Florida, Drilling off of California, Alternative Fuels, Windmills, Nuclear Plants, Excessive Taxation etc etc etc and this CLOWN attaches his name to Gay Marriage!

Question.... is this Selective Media Reporting or is it a Selective Political Endorsement?

Leadership usually means "not" having to guess!

TT
22 posted on 04/30/2006 4:51:30 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: spikeytx86

I have to agree here, this is a state issue and should not be molested by the federal government.

I also agree that it's dangerous to tamper with the constitution over an issue like this. This "protect marriage" movement isn't protecting anything. I can tell you that my marriage isn't threatened at all by what two people of the same sex do or don't do. Those who see this as a constitutional issue need to get a life.

I can tell you what it does do and that is that rather than vote entirely GOP as I used to do, I now pick and choose and think long and hard before voting for anyone who considers this a federal issue.


23 posted on 04/30/2006 4:51:54 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (what support is Sinclair giving to a candidate)
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To: Just mythoughts

I take it that those who eat pork will be included in God's wrath as will those who wear cloth made of multiple thread.
Maybe a constitutional amendment is in order to combat those sins also.


24 posted on 04/30/2006 4:54:09 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (what support is Sinclair giving to a candidate)
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To: DBeers
But Danforth said he is opposed. "The basic concept of the Republican Party is to interpret the Constitution narrowly, not expansively, so that legislatures, and especially state legislatures, can work out over a period of time the social issues in our country," he said.

I don't know what rock he just crawled out from under but the whole reason this amendment is necessary is for the judges, not the people. In fact the amendment does precisely what Danforth says he favors: It returns the issue to state legislatures. If we are going to allow some states to redefine marriage and other states to not redefine it (an impossiblilty I think), then we are going to have to call these things by different names. That's why marriage is the word for the definition held throughout history, and "civil union" is the term for the new progressive definition. If states want that, then let their legislators who must be reelected by the people vote for it. Ultimately, the way our Constitution reads, there is no real way to allow one state to have it without forcing another state to recognize it. The DOMA supposedly protects other states. But it does nothing to protect us from the judges, who will overturn DOMA first chance they get.

25 posted on 04/30/2006 4:54:19 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: JohnnyZ
James Taranto of the WSJ featured such grumblings about the "religious right" from Danforth earlier this year. Looks like he is this year's Christie Todd Whitman or Francis Fuyuyama (whom I had never heard of in my life before the moonbat media held him up as an anti-Bush conservative).

BTW, did you know that Catherine Crier, former Fox News Channel host, has attacked the "religious right" as well? In her latest book -- which I picked up in a bookstore months ago, flipped through and put back down -- she imagines herself the inevitable target of a vicious smear campaign because of her rabid criticism of conservative Christians. Turns out she didn't have a thing to worry her pretty little head over; both left and right yawned, and ignored her completely.

26 posted on 04/30/2006 4:56:03 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Q: Presidente Fox, what are you doing to make Mexico a place your people don't want to leave?)
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To: DBeers

Wonder if he thinks laws against having sex with animals are silly.


27 posted on 04/30/2006 4:58:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

That is why a constitutional amendment banning gay marriages is being discussed in the first place.

Is that really the reason or is it that some feel threatened by something they don't understand. No gay couple has ever been, isn't now and will never be a threat to my marriage. Those who feel threatened need to get a life.


28 posted on 04/30/2006 4:58:54 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (what support is Sinclair giving to a candidate)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The only way I would support a constitutional ban would be if and only if the supreme court magical finds another right in the constitution like they did with roe. Other then that it should be left to the states.
29 posted on 04/30/2006 5:00:02 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: Joan Kerrey

"I take it that those who eat pork will be included in God's wrath as will those who wear cloth made of multiple thread.
Maybe a constitutional amendment is in order to combat those sins also."


What was the consequence for eating pork when the Heavenly Father said He did not make it fit to be consumed?

Mocking the Heavenly Father is Written to be a far greater sin than wearing mixed threads.


30 posted on 04/30/2006 5:01:16 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: DBeers

We have more rules on what constitutes a new mattress than we have have on what constitutes one's gayness; I think we need to suspend the process until we have a definition.


31 posted on 04/30/2006 5:01:40 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Joan Kerrey

Is bigamy a threat to your marriage?


32 posted on 04/30/2006 5:02:38 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: DBeers
Its silly to defend traditional values but its reasonable to promote the liberal agenda. Now I get it.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

33 posted on 04/30/2006 5:03:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: spikeytx86

Homosexuality is an aberrant stain upon society that must be addressed NOW. I am sympathetic towards states' rights, but sometimes such rights have to be set aside for the needs of the greater good. Just like certain liberties need to be curtailed by the Patriot Act so we can properly fight the new global war on terrorism.


34 posted on 04/30/2006 5:04:03 PM PDT by Gorobei
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Also if we were to go the route of a ban to stop legislation from the bench, could we not word the amendment to state that all matters regarding marriage and the rights there of are to be left to the states?
35 posted on 04/30/2006 5:04:32 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: Joan Kerrey
Those who feel threatened need to get a life.

Those who claim others feel threatened need to go to DU....

36 posted on 04/30/2006 5:04:54 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: L.N. Smithee
Francis Fuyuyama (whom I had never heard of in my life before the moonbat media held him up as an anti-Bush conservative).

Francis Fukuyama is not a politician. He's an ethicist and an excellent conservative thinker and writer/philosopher. I hadn't heard anything anti-Bush about him, but it would not surprise me that the two disagreed about some things. (I looked it up and he criticized the current/recent foreign policy.) Strong thinkers will always disagree with politicians (and with each other) about something.

37 posted on 04/30/2006 5:09:08 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: Gorobei

Troll much?


39 posted on 04/30/2006 5:10:44 PM PDT by Northeastern_Realist
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To: Gorobei
Your right, lets give the feds the right to legislate away all "Stains" and abominations to society. Government knows best right? What happens when the democrats regain control in which will happen someday whether this year or decades from now it WILL happen, they decide that guns are a stain on society, as are profits, and incomes above $100,000, property rights, and religion and they decide to cleanse society of there evil because decades earlier a republican congress gave the federal government the power to right all wrongs that "society" i.e. those in power at the time deem wrong.
40 posted on 04/30/2006 5:11:08 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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