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1 posted on 04/30/2006 2:05:33 PM PDT by SandRat
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Sorry about having to excerpt it but the AP is involved in this story.


2 posted on 04/30/2006 2:06:18 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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MM also provide jobs for ACLU and spokespeople. If the MM were not there what would the ACLU folks be doing?


3 posted on 04/30/2006 2:10:21 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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They are right, you didn't hear much except the grumbling of fed up Americans among each other until the minutemen showed up then the whole issue was brought front and center.


4 posted on 04/30/2006 2:12:03 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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Meetze (of the ACLU) says: "They (the minutemen) just don't have a right to cross the line and take the law into their own hands."

Actually, they do, Ms. Meetze.

As citizens, they have every right to participate in law enforcement.

You're just reinforcing a stereotype of the ACLU being subversive and anti-American.

6 posted on 04/30/2006 2:15:39 PM PDT by nightdriver
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... but critics disagree.

That's why they're called critics.
7 posted on 04/30/2006 2:17:57 PM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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Oh yeah, the ACLU is real concerned about law and order.

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9 posted on 04/30/2006 2:21:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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If it weren't for the Minutemen, I don't think the country would be openly talking about illegal immigration now. The politicians would be stealthily integrating our two countries without most Americans even noticing. At least now we are noticing, but we may find that we are powerless to stop it.


10 posted on 04/30/2006 2:25:46 PM PDT by KittyKares
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The "critics" of the MinuteMen should be deported along with the illegal alien socialist communists.


11 posted on 04/30/2006 2:27:01 PM PDT by stopem (To allow a bunch of third world country nationals to divide Americans is unconscionable!)
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Anyone who studies the timeline can see a direct parallel to the emergence of the Minutemen movement and the current state of legislative turmoil; certainly, it made a difference and only a fool would laugh it off.

What is distressing is not the taunts of our critics but the reluctance of our leaders to acknowledge that this is a genuine grassroots effort to solve a real and growing problem.


12 posted on 04/30/2006 2:28:49 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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It would be so nice if KVOA would really investigate this:

Jennifer Allen, director of the immigrant rights advocacy group Border Action Network, said the group's presence along the border have done nothing to bring real solutions to the problems along the border.

My guess she is part of if not actively so the ACLU and what 'solutions' is she talking about - the Minutemen are not about 'solutions' they are about doing what American citizens are supposed to do....protect their country by reporting to or holding for the Border Patrol illegal felons.

Sombody get a mug shot of this Jennifer Allen so we can all see the face of this enemy.

17 posted on 04/30/2006 2:31:43 PM PDT by yoe (Aim low boys, they're riding Burros.........................)
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Above all else, no matter what Jennifer Allen (director of the Border Action Network), the ACLUers or others may say, even the AP reports that "there have been no reports of violence connected with any Minuteman operations since the inception of the organization."
19 posted on 04/30/2006 2:33:34 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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Joshua Bolten, New White House Chief of Staff

Mr. Bolten said today that concerning the 'immigration' issue that Americans should 'tone it down'.

You may wish to tell Mr. Bolten what he can do with his opinion.

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25 posted on 04/30/2006 3:07:15 PM PDT by LucyT ("Whether it's the best of times or the worst of times, it's the only time we've got." Art Buchwald)
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Minutemen made IMO a major difference because they made national news and brought this to a national state as a national issue.

Before that for over twenty + years we had George Putnam on radio in California who was forecasting this illegal immigration disaster and he and his listeners were the only ones up to speed before the Minutemen IMO.
27 posted on 04/30/2006 3:10:12 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Border Agents to Americans : "You've Been Invaded
28 posted on 04/30/2006 3:14:46 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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"the US Border Patrol is maintaining its neutral position"

OK, that explains some things. I thought they were on our side . . . . . . . .


32 posted on 04/30/2006 3:20:52 PM PDT by OkieDoke
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From the article:
The Minutemen, she [Alessandra Soler Meetze, executive director of the American Civil Liberties-Arizona chapter] acknowledged, "have been able to exercise their free speech and get their message across that they don't agree with the way our government is enforcing immigration laws."
It is? Cudda fooled me. If it is, where did the 11+ MILLION Criminal Aliens come from?

More from the article:

The ACLU also is present, she added, "to enable them to express their rights. They have a right to express themselves. They just don't have a right to cross the line and take the law into their own hands."
Those "legal observers" in reply #9 above are fine examples of rights being expressed. Looks like something out of a Cheech and Chong movie. LOL!
35 posted on 04/30/2006 5:06:37 PM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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What would happen if critics agreed with the object of their criticism? Would they no longer be critics?

The headline is one of those DUH moments.

37 posted on 05/01/2006 12:29:41 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't use illegals: HIREPATRIOTS.COM)
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