Feckless euros.
"If it's about creating a global club meant to solve all the world's problems, the Europeans are wary," another said
Solving the world's problems? That's the United States' job! No my yob, say the euros.
I would also like to see India in NATO.
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The proposal would see Australia, New Zealand and possibly Japan and South Korea extended privileged status with NATO that would reflect their active role in some Alliance missions while stopping short of offering membership.
I expect Wellington's reaction will probably be "Thanks, but no thanks.", even if the Don Brash were the PM now. Not tosay what the reaction from Keith Locke or even Dear Helen will be. There is quite a lot of desire from mainstream New Zealand to have nothing to do with the United States along the Sweden or Switzerland line.
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I will never know why the French have been allowed to get as much say in the world as they have. Aussies had to help save them in two world wars and they rolled over to Hitler in a matter of weeks. Then we copped the nuclear fallout while they engaged in atmospheric testing in the Pacific. And let us not forget their recent friendship with Saddam Hussein. I don't want to see this country involved in any partnership that involves helping the French. When they get into trouble again let them eat cake.
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That would be awesome!
Australia has always been a partner nation. They have been very active over the years as well. Few really know all that they do. East Timor for example. Most have no clue that the Aussies are in Iraq, that they had troops in Korea or Vietnam. Japan, S. Korea, New Zealand and Australia are all nations that should be on the list.
Frankly, I trust and would depend on Japan more than France! Few in the US know that Japan also has troops in Iraq. That they are one of the bigger financial supporters of rebuilding Iraq. Fact is, Japan has a military larger and more capable than any European nation. They are the worlds second largest economy, have a higher per capita GDP than most of Europe, are one of the worlds leading contributors to the UN, are extremely reliable when it comes to arms non-proliferation and they do NOT bottom feed like the Russians or French. Of course all know they are a democracy, but compared to many of the European allies, Japan is more stead fast in it’s democratic ways and less corrupt. I think it's past due that Japan, S. Korea, Australia, and New Zealand be offered this opportunity.
But there is a flip side to the coin. In a geopolitical sense, if they are tied into NATO then an attack on S. Korea might not be a US/British/Canadian/Aussie/Japanese issue but an issue where Italy, Spain, Norway, even Germany also help out. The bottom line is that for years the US has been playing policeman. The US tax payer has been subsidiesing the national security of allied nations with whom other nations like the Germans, French or even Norwegians do trade, travel etc. But did the Germans want to have anything to do with the security situation in S. Korea? Hell no. They want to buy their products made in Japan and Korea, they want to export their BMW’s there, but they want absolutely nothing to do with the messy costly security issues. Vacation in Australia? Sure. Sell Tiger helicopters to Australia, Sure. And if the Aussies face a threat, would they be there? No.
If you read between the lines here you see exactly what I’m talking about. These European nations want NATO to serve their security needs. But they don’t want to pay any of the costs in the Pacific rim. Just like they expect us to help them but they want to do as little as possible in the GWOT. Who do you think did the “balking” in the article? The article didn’t say, but within Europe I can already say France, Germany and Belgium will be against it. Why? Because they fear that maybe they too have to carry some of the weight.
We live in a world where it is really “expected” that the US clean up pirates off the East coast of Africa, but nations that have ships with their flag on them, carrying their products for export feel absolutely in their right to do nothing to help. It’s a sad sad situation. But will Germany expect NATO to get involved if a nuclear Iran raised it’s head and threatened central Europe? Absolutely! If the Balkans fell apart would the Germans feel as if NATO should intervene as in the past? Absolutely!
Many in Europe are in the peculiar situation where they can’t be forced to help and where they have a choice. If they do nothing others have no choice but to fix the real pressing issues out there anyway. If Germany does nothing when S. Korea gets attacked, S. Korea will fight, the US, Canada, Australia, and Japan will all help each other out in this war scenario. The Europeans have no obligation to do anything and they like it that way. They are a spoiled child that knows it’s a spoiled child, at least in political circles.
Well if the anti Western group has the SCO, then NATO needs to expand beyond the Atlantic. NATO + SEATO2 + NPTO or something like that.