Posted on 04/29/2006 12:07:27 PM PDT by groanup
My daughter's history teacher made this claim in class last week: "I don't believe Viet Nam veterans were mistreated when they came back from the war. I don' know any who were."
Would any and all Viet Nam vets please tell us how you were treated when you came back from Nam? I'll print out this thread and give it to the teacher.
When my brother-in-law walked out of an airport terminal in Washington state, on his way home from Vietnam, he was greeted by screams of "baby killer" and was spat upon.
This teacher does not believe the returning Viet Nam vets were mistreated?
This teacher is on the same intellectual level as the leader in Iran who says the World War II Holocaust did not happen.
Good luck with trying to educate the teacher, but you can't fix stupid.
I lived in Chicago and worked in the Loop starting in 1970. My job required that I wear a suit and I of course had short hair. The day of Kent State I believe it was May 7, I was on Michigan Avenue and kids from Roosevelt University poured onto the street. I had no idea what was up -- they were mad and in an uproar. They singled me out and a cop had to pull me away from the confrontation.
The cops took the brunt of the abuse -- they had sh** thrown at them and were spit at and pushed and shoved. The Democratic Convention riots of 1968 caused Chicago PD to very gentle with the protestors.
When I returned to Chicago in Sept 1969 I ended
up getting a job in Downtown Chicago, across
the street from the Chicago 8 trial.
(Tom Hayden, Bobby Seale, Dave Dellinger,
Rennie Davis, Abbie Hoffman, and Jerry Rubin, etc)
Thanks to the lies of hanoi kerry and hanoi jane,
and and the rest of the MINORITY looney left,
and the fact that the silent MAJORITY refused
to stand up to the lefties,
I found myself
1) Treated as a 2nd class citizen.
2) Denied admission to Northwestern
simply because I was a Viet Nam Vet.
3) When I changed jobs I learned not to even
mention my vet status because I was "one of those."
hanoi kerry and hanoi jane are STILL lying
about our troops in harms way in the current war.
Somethings never change!
One of which is my vow to those
Brothers and Sisters on the Wall.
I VOW to the 58,000 + Brothers and Sisters on
The Viet Nam Wall who never came home
and to those who died at home from injuries and
from broken hearts.
"I will do everything I LEGALLY can
to expose Hanoi Kerry once and for all.
I will not tire, I will not falter,
and I will not fail.
I solemnly vow to do all I can to restore your honor
until I give my last breath on earth."
http://www.freerepublic.com/~6869tonkingulfyachtc/
I guess there are some here
and elsewhere on the internet
that just don't get it.
Also from my FR profile page
I have taken a vow that our military will never be disrepected again.
To those who post snide remarks about those in the military
Who served with Honor
Including Male or Female active duty or Male or Female Vets
BE WARNED: I WILL NOT TOLERATE IT ON MY WATCH!
On Monday I needed to get to La Guardia and I stopped a lady and asked her how to get there. She asked me what time my flight left and, after I told her, she pulled out a twenty and insisted I take a cab or I'd miss my flight. I said thanks anyway and she said she would yell RAPE! right then and there if I didn't take it.
When I got home all of my "friends" who never served loved to tell me how wrong the war was. No one ever thanked me for my service.
New York was far "friendlier" to me than my hometown.
This guy is apparently an ex-hippie type who grew up to get a soft degree in education. His choice of becoming a history teacher is another easy professional route. Many history teachers have created their own revisionist versions of the subject. We must not confuse this one with facts.
Thanks. I'll use them.
for the forum...I've taken the liberty of putting this under keyword:
"VETERANABUSE"
(and the MSNBC thread from post 27)
I have started a thread on our forum countering that idiot Lembecke who wrote the book about spitting on Vets was a Myth. Key to countering these academic types is to find documented reports published prior to 1980 (when he states this Myth started)
May find something helpful there, it's ongoing research, taking a lot of digging.
http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=159068
For The Record > Spitting on Vets a Myth?
Hope this comes out right ( long time lurker - seldom poster)
~Kate
"Two men I knew gave their lives there and what does bother me more
than anything is that I feel they gave their lives for nothing accomplished."
I won't presume to speculate on that (especially as I was too young
to have served).
But I suspect that photos like the first one in the linked thread makes
some Vietnam Communists wonder if they actually won the conflict:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1622794/posts
And I'm not any sort of Bill Gates fan...after having to reboot after
about a thousand freezes of my PCs.
I don't know if this qualifies as 'abuse' but it certainly had a negative effect on our quality of life.
My late husband was a combat VN vet. At that time, whenever a combat vet committed a crime, the newscasters were quick to point that out. It made it seem that all combat vets were serial killers waiting to happen.
My husband was turned down for job after job by snot-nosed college grads who a. thought he would go postal on the job or b. hated the war, the military and didn't want anyone who'd been a part of that in the workplace.
He became positively venomous towards people who had college (they'd gotten deferments). His inability to get good employment for a long time affected our finances, his depression levels, his post-traumatic stress, our homelife, everything. It got to the point where he finally had to leave off his combat experience from his resume. He was ashamed to have to do so, because, tho he didn't want to be drafted, he went, he did his duty and he was proud of it.
jeez. I hate these liberal bastards. Now I'm going to have to redo my mascara before I can go out for the afternoon.
My ex was a Vietnam Army vet -- 2 tours, one as a platoon leader. We married in '80 and it was still too painful for him to talk about, except after too much beer. He spoke of being mistreated when he landed in Los Angeles ("baby killer", etc.) -- said it was a bummer that they flew home non-stop, no way to get out of uniform before they landed. He always resented Vietnam vets being portrayed as drugged out nutcases -- said research would show nutcases were already so, before they got to Nam.
me too.
I never hesitate to speak out to idiots talking down vets and/or talking about commiekerry and/or just disprecting the military. 99.9% of the time the message gets across and they back down fast.
I'm sure you know this one: "If you can read thank a teacher, if you can read in English thank a soldier."
L8R
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1623813/posts?page=24#24
Chicago Loop Sept 1969
Prior to the Viet Nam war, enlisted personel were not allowed to wear civilian clothes on liberty or off base except in certain circumstances, those circumstances being while on leave or if their duties required civilian attire. The reason for this were simple and direct, the lockers on barracks and ships didn't not have enough space alloted for civilian clothes so only uniforms were allowed.
As a direct result of personal attacks by anti war protestors, enlisted personel were allowed to wear civilian clothes when not on duty.
On my way home from Boot Camp in unifrom in 1975 I was assaulted by an "anti war protestor" complete with peace signs patches, bell bottomed jeans, a field jacket, and the sort of body funk that would strip paint, in a Greyhound Bus station in Jacksonville Florida.
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