Cardinals visit White House, Hill on immigration reform

Catholic News Service ^ | April 28, 2006 | Jerry Filteau

[Earthdweller]

Look..the Catholics threw some of my ancestors out of bell towers....but the cardinals are right on this one.

Think of the Christian Mexican American children when drafting this legislation...please.

[sinkspur]

Would the Cardinals consider asking their hundereds of hopstitals to provide free care for these poor illegal souls?

They already do.

[television is just wrong]

How come Mexico can deport, and we cannot???

Don't forget shopping on Monday
Boycott their boycott.

[Verginius Rufus]

The other Cardinals were not in Washington, but losing to Washington at home. (But Pujols hit his 13th homer of the month.)

The U.S. cardinals should next fly to Mexico City and demand that the Mexican government start treating illegals crossing into Mexico from Guatemala more humanely.

[Verginius Rufus]

If the illegals were all whites from Europe, or were seen as people likely to vote Republican once they became citizens, we'd be hearing demands that they be sent home because they were taking jobs from members of minority groups or were driving down wages and making it harder for labor unions to organize workers.

[dano1]

"...but the Cardinals are right on this one. Think of the Christian Mexican American children when drafting this legislation...please."

In the long run a system which rewards those who break the law really won't help the Mexican / Mexican-American children. (Although certainly you are right that we should work towards effective solutions to help them.) Amnesty simply tells Mexicans who follow the law that they are stupid, and that the way to get ahead is to cheat. It will be a magnate to keep drawing more and more illegal immigrants and further break down civil society in both countries.

[antisocial]

"Would the Cardinals consider asking their hundereds of hopstitals to provide free care for these poor illegal souls?
They already do."

That's why they had to charge me twice as much for my operation.
Deport all illegals now!
You can go too Sinkspur!

[marty60]

Gee did they happen to mention the innocent unborn. I doubt it.

[Earthdweller]

I can't believe with the spiritual war we have going on and the race to increase Christians on this planet that Christians would be treating other Christians this way (especially the children).

I have always been a Republican because I am a Christian. If the Republican party loses site of their Christian roots and the promotion of Christianity..in my opinion they have lost everything.

[Earthdweller]

I don't think it tells them they are stupid..I think it tells them they know how to survive...like the Irish who fled to America because they were being starved by the British during the potato famine. Do you really think they WANTED to leave their families behind?

Yes they are here illegally and they need to pay a fine but some of the rhetoric I have seen has been like animals going in for the kill and not conducive to finding a reasonable solution.

IMHO..save it for our real enemies.

[NonValueAdded]

Well, this bushbot agrees that Wuli's post made mammoth sense and that GWB is wrong on this issue.

[sinkspur]

You can go too Sinkspur!

LOL!! Nah. I've been here longer than you.

Besides your antisocial. Nobody will miss you.

[Earthdweller]

If there was a realistic way to truly shut down the boarder and just keep the ones that are here who are willing to become legal citizens I would be with you..but you can't hall the ones that are here out like cattle.

[television is just wrong]

the cardinals are insuring job security for themselves.

[VOA]

...a march planned in Los Angeles, which was to start at 4 p.m.
in MacArthur Park.

That's why the children of the illegals have to be gotten out of
schools for the day. They are probably handling most of the pre-march
logistics while the illegals that can't take Monday off are working.

Thus they'll take advantage of day-light-saving time to have a
shut-down-the-freeways when working people are trying to get home
during evening rush hour. And local TV news coverage from about
six or seven hovering news helicopters.
(Yep, I've seen that many over the intersection of Wilshire Blvd. and
Sepulveda/Veteran in West Los Angeles when protestors have shut down
that area during an evening protest. Talk about burning fossil fuels!)

I hope the illegals totally jam Los Angeles, Dallas, etc. during Monday
evening rush-hour.
Nothing like a jammed freeway on the ride home to P-SS off even folks
that might be sympathetic to the illegals.

[Kimberly GG]

There is a GIANT lie, in the GOP, in the Demorats and in the media. The "movement" is not for immigrants, and not particularly not for legal immigrants and most particularly not for non-Hispanic immigrants. It is a movement pushing for the right of any Latino to set foot on U.S. soil and claim, by their presence, and by nothing else, the right to be here. It is a movement to use a planted mob of immigrants to change the political framework of north America, to disregard national sovereignty and our Constitution."

I've been called a "Bushbot" before for supporting the Dubai decision, yet I am 100% in agreement with you and very disappointed that Bush and most ALL of our D.C. leadership are IGNORING the majority of americans who do NOT support amnesty for illegals.

I believe May Day is going to change all that. The protesters have been calling for Revolucion! and I do believe that come Monday, they are going to get one. Americans WILL NOT stand for this any longer and D.C. is in for a rude awakening. Shame on them for allowing these invaders to take over our cities. They've ignored our borders, allowing this monster to fester and grow and now they are allowing all of us to be vulnerable, both economically and personally, to what may become a violent, nationwide security nightmare that law enforcement alone can NOT handle. I've got a very bad gut feeling about all this.

[ARCADIA]

It is a movement pushing for the right of any Latino to set foot on U.S. soil and claim, by their presence, and by nothing else, the right to be here.

It is not even that; it is a movement for promoting socialist ideals and expanding the socialist base both, within our borders, and within our major political parties. The fact they they are Mexican, Hispanic, or illegal is almost irrelevant; the corporate socialist and the leftist socialist are demanding that we protect and expand our permanent underclass. One to use as an excuse for entitlement and taxation, and the other to undermine the economics of American labor. If not for the Mexicans heritage that has already been established here, the same bunch, would been calling for importation of millions of Chinese laborers. Our decision is not about Hispanics, Christians, or compassion; it is about whether our nation will continue to exist as a either a nation of laws, or even a representative republic.

[fizziwig]

"Well, this bushbot agrees that Wuli's post made mammoth sense and that GWB is wrong on this issue."
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Bushbot-lite I guess....:)

[petkus]

THESE CARDINALS DON'T WANT THE USA TO ENFORCE THE IMMIGRATION LAWS. THE FOLLOWING IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE USCCB LETTER TO THE SENATORS URGING THEM NOT TO STRICTLY ENFORCE THE LAW:

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http://www.usccb.org/comm/archives/2006/06-069.shtml


While there is much to support in the Senate Judiciary Committee-reported version of CIRA, the bishops are deeply opposed to several provisions in Title II that would deprive immigrants of due process and even harm immigrants who are currently in the United States legally. We believe that as good as many of CIRA’s provisions are, a number of the provisions in Title II are harmful and should be either stricken or ameliorated during Senate floor consideration of the measure.

Among the provisions in Title II that concern the bishops are those that would:
- unjustifiably expand the definition of aggravated felony, thereby rendering many deserving aliens ineligible for immigration relief;
- increase and authorize the use of indiscriminate, mandatory and indefinite detention;
- expand the use of expedited removal, thus increasing the risk that the United States might return refugees, asylum seekers, unaccompanied children, trafficking victims, battered spouses, and other vulnerable populations to situations where they may face harm;
- place unjustified limitations on judicial review at a time when the judiciary has leveled unprecedented charges that the immigration court system is making unjust decisions, and
- increase the authority of state and local law enforcement agencies to enforce civil federal immigration laws.

[JoeFromSidney]

We should compassionately and humanely return them to Mexico.