Bush: Massive deportation of migrants won't work

Reuters ^ | 4.24.06 | Tabassum Zakaria

[Dr. Marten]

By Tabassum Zakaria

IRVINE, California (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Monday he doubted a "massive deportation" of foreigners living illegally in the United States would solve the country's immigration woes, as he tried to revive prospects for an election-year agreement in the divided U.S. Congress.

Senators returned to Washington on Monday from a two-week recess after Democrats and Republicans were unable to reach a compromise on what to do about an estimated 11.5 million to 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States.

 

[Unicorn]

No money until borders are under control; eight letters sent back so far;no money.

[Unicorn]

No money until borders are under control; eight letters sent back so far;no money.

[Dane]

You are so right. If IFCO had to pay a fine of $1,000,000 for every illegal that ICE rounded up last Wed., they'd be out of business

Yep and put IFCO's suppliers out of business also(cutting American jobs), but what the hey IFCO was employing people named Jose for making those evil pallets.

[rodeocowboy]

Your tag line/signature near your name on everything you post reads: (Republicans - doing the work that Democrats won't do since 1854.)

It should read, (Republicans - working hand-in-hand with the Democrats since 1994)

Back to the point though. You can make any assertion you want about me being a "non-republican," but go to google.com and type my handle in (rodeocowboy) and you will see how hard I campaigned for that traitor-to-the-cause named Bush. Here's a quick link and you will see me as the first result: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22rodeocowboy%22

[george wythe]

And what makes you think that Mexico has veto power over U.S. sovereignty?

And what makes you think that Cuba has veto power over U.S. sovereignty?

Cuba shipped over 10,000 aggravated felons (hardcore murderers, rapists, etc)to the US during the Mariel boat lift. Since then, Castro has refused to take back most of them. The US Supreme Court has ruled that such non-admissible aliens must be released.

And that's just one country.

[george wythe]

There are several federal cases dealing with aliens whose home countries refuse to take them back.

For instance, In Clark, Scalia, writing for the majority (7-2), asserted:

In Zadvydas, the Court further held that the presumptive period during which an alien’s detention is reasonably necessary to effectuate removal is six months, and that he must be conditionally released after that time if he can demonstrate that there is “no significant likelihood of removal in the reasonably foreseeable future.”

In case of massive forced repatriations, Mexico’s contingency plans involve refusing to accept the aliens, just like Cuba and several other countries do.

[george wythe]

if they came here illegally, we can ship 'em back illegally if Mexico doesn't cooperate.

We can, but we may not. The US Supreme Court disagrees with your statement.

And US Supreme Court's decisions are the law of the land, not the exception.

[dirtboy]

And US Supreme Court's decisions are the law of the land, not the exception.

Look up Andrew Jackson's response to the Supreme Court and get back to me.

[Czar]

Thanks for the cite. I want to do some further research on this issue. So far, the case law appears thin.

[TigersEye]

There is no compassion in filling a man's stomach or his pocketbook by relieving him of his responsibilities in life. Illegal aliens have abandoned their own house in order to be comfortable in ours. By so doing neither can be the master of his own house and both will be enemies in the street. This is our house, the U.S. of A., and it is our responsibility to set the rules in it.

The issue of a guest worker program is separate from the issue of illegal aliens. If illegal aliens take jobs from Americans (and they do) they take even more jobs from foreign nationals who apply by the legal route to work here and wait years for the chance. Illegal aliens steal that chance from them.

They are different groups of people, regardless of their country of origin, and the political issues that concern them are different in their effects and needs. Confusing the two may be lethal to our society, economy and sovereignty.

We already have a guest worker program, which may indeed need to be reformed. But illegal aliens are those who have not applied to be guest workers. There are 11 million of them by some estimates, 20 million by others. The only thing needing reform concerning illegal aliens is to enforce the existing laws respecting their presence and their employment here. Our sovereignty and rule-of-law demand it.

Border security is the number one problem in this debate. The flood of illegal aliens is a major factor in relation to our lack of border security but it is only one factor. There is also a matter of national security in a time of war and in an age when terrorists have set their sights on inflicting mass destruction on our society.

After the issues of border security and millions of illegal foreign nationals on our soil the matter of guest workers is very small in comparison. Until the first two problems are thoroughly and firmly addressed the guest worker issue should not even be discussed.

The President and the Senate need to get that message with unambiguous resolve.

The best methods to control the border have been studied and debated for a long time now. There are many good ideas and proven solutions. What is lacking is only the will to do it. The cost of controlling our borders will be insignificant compared to the price we will pay, both in security and economy, if we do not.

It would be nice to help everyone in the world lift themselves up out of poverty. But we cannot take that responsibility upon ourselves especially if we ignore our own welfare to the point that we are no longer prosperous.

Other nations of the world have an obligation to help their citizens every bit as much as we have to help ours. It is one thing to help other nations prosper it is quite another to relieve them of their own responsibilities. Beyond that it is simply not realistic to think that poverty can be ended around the world. We still have some in this great nation.

We must stop pandering to American employers who criminally employ illegal foreign nationals. Dry up the jobs and illegal foreign nationals will go home. Home where they can do what they must to put their house in order just as we must put ours in order.

[uncitizen]

massive deportation won't work.

Of course it will. According to Leno: "Mexico did it."

[mthom]

Tell us again how youre "against illegal immigration". Ive never seen you react even neutrally to any enforcement of immigration law.

[mthom]

Better wave the white flag and just accept integration with mexico then right? Unless you support a very large wall you might as well support that.

[teawithmisswilliams]

And US Supreme Court's decisions are the law of the land, not the exception

The Supreme Court has been known to do U-turns when either new appointments come on or the public turns against them.

[Edit35]

Once you cut off the attraction they deport themselves.

Not always.

Some would turn to a life of crime, or otherwise prey on society by going underground to an all cash business.

We must also hold out some form of immediate punishment or incarceration for those caught here illegally.

No more catch and release. At the very least, bail must be upped to a minimum of $12,000 for a hearing.

[sasafras]

Ol Bushy still not using the term illegal to describe these people. Obviously they know it will play to the emotions of most RINOs and moderates. Illegal Mr. Bush - illegal is the term to use - these are not migrants they are illegal migrants.