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Bush Says Massive Deportation Is Not Realistic(Ike did it, so can Bush!)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11:01 AM PDT, April 24, 2006 | James Gerstenzang and Michael Muskal

Posted on 04/24/2006 11:25:27 AM PDT by kellynla

President Bush in Irvine today called for a rational, temporary guest worker program and said that attempting to deport as many as 12 million undocumented workers illegally in the United States was a policy that was not going to work.

Bush capped a four-day trip to California with a visit to the Orange County Business Council, made up of 300 businesses, where he gave his most detailed comments on immigration since a bipartisan compromise in the Senate fell apart more than two weeks ago.

Congress returned to Washington today from its holiday recess with immigration policy one of the key unresolved issues on its agenda.

"We cannot lose sight of that we are talking about human beings that need to be treated with respect," Bush told the group, adding, "Massive deportation of human beings is not going to work."

As he has before, Bush tried to temper his call for tough enforcement.

"You can be a nation of law and a compassionate nation at the same time," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borderlist; calvisit; deportation; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; irvine; resign
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To: kellynla
...attempting to deport as many as 12 million undocumented workers illegally in the United States was a policy that was not going to work

Massively supporting Internationalists, Republican or Democrat, is not going to work. With half of Americans not voting, a third party with the right immigration control message can take over. Bush beat Gore with 1/4 of the voters. Grab disaffected Republicans and Democrats and motivate some of non voting half and you can have a winner.

81 posted on 04/24/2006 12:12:37 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Illegal Aliens will take down the Democrats and Republicans and give rise to a new American party)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque; All
OK, congress critters are sending out their campaign funding solicitation mailings right now.

Now is the time to write something like "Sorry, but this year my political contribution is going to the MinuteMen for their border wall/fence building program" on the solicitation piece that you then return to your rep's headquarters in their own return envelope. (your choice whether you provide the stamp or not).

82 posted on 04/24/2006 12:15:44 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Cecily
Do they treat us and our laws with respect? Help them deport themselves, George. Secure the border and make the jobs and benefits for illegals dry up. This is not rocket science; you and many other pols just don't want to do it, to the disappointment of many.

And while you're at at, tell your good buddy Vincente to stop ENCOURAGING his people to come over here to work and send $$ back - that is a failure not a policy.

But why wouldn't businesses here want a lower class of worker who has no rights and doesn't have to make even the minimum wage? Works out great for them...

83 posted on 04/24/2006 12:18:29 PM PDT by ziggygrey
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To: Cecily

Major disappointment that will not soon be forgotten!


84 posted on 04/24/2006 12:19:00 PM PDT by stopem (If we need a "guest worker" we'll call........if the phone doesn't ring it's me!)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
"Grab disaffected Republicans and Democrats and motivate some of non voting half and you can have a winner."

Do you think Fox news and Ann Coulter will be in on the government takeover?

85 posted on 04/24/2006 12:19:09 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
And a guest worker program amnesty program is better enforcement? How so?

It doesn't have to be a full amnesty, but whatever.

What your side keeps overlooking on this issue is the nuts and bolts of how you accomplish this on the ground level. The biggest single problem is being able to identify these people, and their immigration status, quickly and easily. And without the incredible ease of forgery in the current system.

Right now, all you basically have to do is show your social security card. How easily forged is that? Contrast that to your credit card. People may steal them, but forging them is incredibly difficult because you've got to fool the computer reading the unique I.D. number, not the schlub clerk who rings you up.

The absolute key to any effective enforcement plan is getting a quick, accurate, and secure I.D. system. Part of which is you've gotta get them to come out of the woodwork to sign up for it. Thumbprint verification, etc. Do that, and the ability to control who actually gets to work here and/or stay here skyrockets. That's what was missing completely from IRCA in 1986.

Link those cards to receipt of tax payments by the IRS. "Guest worker" doesn't actually work and have withholdings taken out by employer, and his card is flagged for deportation. Time in country expires, card is flagged. And any employer/INS agent can verify that in 60 seconds. You can put whatever time limits on stays you want, and for the first time, it will be subject to real-time verification.

86 posted on 04/24/2006 12:19:40 PM PDT by XJarhead
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To: sheana

Okay line in the sand.....Nov 2006!!


87 posted on 04/24/2006 12:21:09 PM PDT by stopem (If we need a "guest worker" we'll call........if the phone doesn't ring it's me!)
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To: Let's Roll

Send the same message to the RNC. I recently got their latest questionnaire regarding the big issues for GOP voters, and illegal immigration and border security were mentioned nowhere in it.


88 posted on 04/24/2006 12:23:29 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: jlasoon

You can be a nation of law and a compassionate nation at the same time," he said.


"but if you even try to enforce those laws you are nothing more than a vigilante," el Presidente went on to say.


89 posted on 04/24/2006 12:24:19 PM PDT by frankiep
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To: kellynla

Clinton was our first black President, Bush is our first Mexican President!


90 posted on 04/24/2006 12:24:27 PM PDT by subrosa sam (subrosasam)
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To: kaktuskid

Nevertheless, they did deport 1 million illegals, a remarkable accomplishment for the time.


91 posted on 04/24/2006 12:26:01 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: kellynla
And apparently Mexico is listening:
Mexicans See Immigration As Inevitable

ATOTONILCO, Mexico -- They name their babies Johnny and Leslie, so certain are they that their kids' future lies in the United States. Returning migrants sprinkle English into their speech as they talk knowingly about job markets in U.S. towns.

America may want to stop illegal immigration, but most Mexicans accept it as a fact of life they can't imagine changing.

(snip)


92 posted on 04/24/2006 12:27:20 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: TonyRo76

I believe it was part of Operation Wetback during Ike's administration.

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/OO/pqo1.html


94 posted on 04/24/2006 12:28:41 PM PDT by tertiary01 (May 1st-- PINKO DE MAYO shop til you drop)
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To: kellynla

We needn't deport a single one of them. Just arrest those that employ or give them benefits and as their reasons for being here dries up, they can find their way back across the border, the same way they came!


96 posted on 04/24/2006 12:30:34 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: kellynla
I think the Republicans in the house should bring impeachment articles against Senior President Bush.

He's not defending our country...
97 posted on 04/24/2006 12:32:54 PM PDT by babygene
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To: ex-Texan
Enforce the law!

Can't do that. We can't deport...can't secure the borders...can't enforce existing laws. We just can't do much of anything anymore.

It seems America's can-do days are behind her.

98 posted on 04/24/2006 12:34:39 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Cecily
I got the same one from Senator First. I sent back a very clear message...
99 posted on 04/24/2006 12:35:56 PM PDT by babygene
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To: GarySpFc
"8 usc 1325 entering the US unlawfully...

misdemeanor first time...

felony second time...

AMNESTY third time!!!!

Just keep trying, folks. DON'T GIVE UP THE SHIP!!!! /sarc

100 posted on 04/24/2006 12:37:07 PM PDT by jdm (Trading obscure Helen Thomas pics online since 1996.)
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