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Franciscan friar holds masses for Blairs in No 10
Times Newspapers Ltd. ^ | 04.02.06 | Christopher Morgan

Posted on 04/23/2006 2:02:04 PM PDT by Coleus

TONY BLAIR has been attending private Roman Catholic masses in Downing Street conducted by a Franciscan friar renowned for helping convert members of the Establishment to Catholicism.

The prime minister, an Anglican, participates in the services, although he does not take Communion with his wife Cherie, a Catholic, and their children. Sources disclosed that the ceremonies are conducted in the sitting room by Father Michael Seed, the friar who prepared the Conservative MPs John Gummer and Ann Widdecombe to become Catholics.

The Blairs, whose four children are Catholics, have been quietly attending mass at Downing Street and Chequers since 2003 because security worries curtailed visits to Westminster Cathedral and to other Catholic churches. News of the services may rekindle speculation that Blair is interested in converting to Rome under Seed’s guidance after he leaves office. He has previously said he has no plans to convert and only attends services so the family can worship together.

For the Downing Street services, Seed normally dresses in the dark brown habit of a Franciscan Friar of the Atonement, over which he wears vestments. A chalice and paten for the bread are placed on a table covered by a white cloth in the Blairs’ sitting room. Members of the family are understood to take part in readings in the services. Private services of mixed denominations are rare, although an increasing number of non-Catholics attend mass in churches. There has never been a Catholic British prime minister and Cherie is the first Downing Street spouse to be a member of the Roman church.

The Blairs have made similar private arrangements at Chequers, the prime minister’s country residence in Buckinghamshire. The family previously worshipped at the Catholic church in nearby Great Missenden where they were regularly treated to the anti-war opinions of Father Timothy Russ, the parish priest. Russ has also conducted services inside Chequers. Other priests conducting masses at the weekend retreat include a Royal Air Force chaplain and a Dominican from Oxford.

The Blairs first had to modify their church-going in the security alert which followed the Al-Qaeda attacks on America on September 11, 2001. They then visited a range of London churches on Sundays and holy days in a “random rotation” so no regular pattern of attendance could be detected by potential assassins. The switch to masses at Downing Street occurred because of raised security following the invasion of Iraq.

Seed declined to comment this weekend on his contacts with the Blairs. Downing Street also refused to comment on “a private matter”.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blairandgod; tonyblair
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1 posted on 04/23/2006 2:02:06 PM PDT by Coleus
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2 posted on 04/23/2006 2:03:45 PM PDT by Coleus (Happy Easter, Jesus Christ is Risen, Hallelujah!)
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3 posted on 04/23/2006 2:05:33 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

You mean the Labour Party knows about and allows this? You mean a British PM and his wife are allowed to believe in God? Surely, this is grounds for a vote of no confidence!

I thought liberals hated religion.


4 posted on 04/23/2006 2:08:03 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Coleus

Good for the Blairs. Its nice to see that Cherie has some use after all! ;-)


5 posted on 04/23/2006 2:12:24 PM PDT by Clemenza (Amor de mi Vida, Donde Estas?)
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To: Clemenza

Actually whats amazing here is members of the 'European Ruling Class' seriously practicing Christianity instead of New Age 'fill-in-the-blank' or the latest craze ....Islam!


6 posted on 04/23/2006 2:17:55 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

Prince "Elephant Ears" Charles seems to be the one into Islam.


7 posted on 04/23/2006 2:25:47 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: MadIvan; snugs

Ping!


8 posted on 04/23/2006 2:26:39 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("I was in such a hurry to climb that tree, I punched a squirrel.")
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To: BW2221

The Royals attend church each Sunday


9 posted on 04/23/2006 2:31:03 PM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: Coleus

I thoght Blair converted YEARS ago.


10 posted on 04/23/2006 2:51:31 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
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To: Ann Archy

Blair may have converted. But the English have a long history of anti-Catholicism, and until fairly recent times excluded Catholics from the government.

After all, one of Blair's jobs is to suggest names to the Queen for appointment as Archbishop of Canterbury, and such measures as that. The Queen is still nominally the head of the Anglican Church, but of course she does what her Prime Minister tells her to do.

What's curious is that Blair and his wife appear to be flaming liberals on social matters. You wouldn't think that would draw them to Catholicism. When I saw Franciscan friar, my first thought was liberal priest; but it says Franciscan Friar of the Atonement, and I'm not sure where that order stands.


11 posted on 04/23/2006 3:18:41 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ann Archy

I don't think he's allowed. Don't forget there are guidelines for royalty and holding public office and, I think, one of them is to be Anglican.


12 posted on 04/23/2006 4:44:22 PM PDT by Coleus (Happy Easter, Jesus Christ is Risen, Hallelujah!)
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To: Cicero
... and until fairly recent times excluded Catholics from the government.

True if you count the early 19th century as 'recent'. The Catholic Emancipation Act was passed in 1829!

13 posted on 04/24/2006 1:31:26 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Coleus
Don't forget there are guidelines for royalty and holding public office and, I think, one of them is to be Anglican.

Royalty, yes; holding public office, emphatically not (since 1829 - see previous post).

14 posted on 04/24/2006 1:34:02 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy; Cicero; Coleus
Although the Emancipation Act was a milestone, great prejudice against Catholics in politics remained.

Hillaire Belloc was opposed for Salford in 1905 with the in-your-face campaign slogan, "Don't vote for a Frenchman and a Catholic" (he was only half French.)

Belloc, never one to avoid a fight, stood up at a public meeting and delivered the following:

"Gentlemen, I am a Catholic," he said, and took his rosary out of his pocket. "As far as possible, I go to Mass every day. This is a rosary: as far as possible, I kneel down and tell these beads every day. If you reject me on account of my religion, I shall thank God that he has spared me the indignity of being your representative."

He got a standing O for that - and took the seat by some 800 votes.

. . . but it just goes to show that there's substantial anti-Catholic prejudice still obtaining in Britain. Read Charles Kingsley's The Water Babies and Westward Ho! . . . it's obvious and offensive. I ignore it and enjoy the stories anyhow, because much of the rabid anti-Catholicism in England is originally political and grew out of the wars with Spain and the problems with Ireland.

15 posted on 04/24/2006 7:41:12 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
but it just goes to show that there's substantial anti-Catholic prejudice still obtaining in Britain.

I'm not sure that the two examples you quote - both over 100 years old - are very convincing as evidence for the 'still'! I must say that in our own time I see very little sign of it (too few of us British, alas, are that exercised by religion of any sort).

Incidentally, worth pointing out that there have plenty of examples of devout Catholics holding senior posts in government, of which the most notable current example is Secretary of State for Education Ruth Kelly.

16 posted on 04/24/2006 8:35:41 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy
Maybe it's because I mostly see older Brits over here . . . but those examples just came to mind because I'm most familiar with 19th and early 20th C. English history.

I was over in Scotland in the 90s, and anti-Catholicism was alive and well there!

Scene on the Forth Bridge, late one night:

"Don't jump, for the sake o' good old Ranger!"
"Ah doan support Ranger."
"Ah well then (a life's at stake) for the sake o' good old Celtic."
"Ah doan support Celtic."
"Aweel, then, jump, ye bluidy atheist!"

17 posted on 04/24/2006 9:07:12 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Winniesboy

No, it's perfectly true, although it's diminishing. I grew up an Episcopalian, have English relatives. Catholics are "not quite the thing."

I spent a year at Jesus College, Cambridge, as a visiting scholar. One thing I found I simply couldn't talk about even with the greatest circumspection was Ireland. They were totally irrational on the subject of the Irish.

Perhaps some of that is breaking down, but there's an old, old, knee-jerk response to Catholics. Blair would want to keep it to himself until he leaves office.


18 posted on 04/24/2006 9:22:54 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Scotland I grant you - especially in the Western central belt and the Western Isles - but that's another country! Far less easy to make a case for it being an issue still in England.


19 posted on 04/24/2006 11:06:05 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy
Well, I wasn't a Catholic the last time I was in England -- so I can't really say because I wasn't paying attention.

But socially I'm sure there's still a problem, because unless you're an old English Catholic family the religion's associated with the Irish . . . who seem to be the Mexicans of England.

20 posted on 04/24/2006 11:51:59 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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