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Whites Only Medicine? - Why it's OK if it cures patients
Reason ^ | April 21, 2006 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 04/23/2006 1:27:43 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 04/23/2006 1:27:48 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

i wonder if whites ae excluded from any sickle-cell anemia drug testing ?


2 posted on 04/23/2006 1:33:06 PM PDT by stylin19a (I never put my foot in my mouth...I shoot that sucker off long before it gets anywhere near my mouth)
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To: neverdem

I demand Caucasians in Sickle-Cell study groups.


3 posted on 04/23/2006 1:33:27 PM PDT by edpc
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The fact is, certain medical conditions and pathogens do indeed affect people differently on the basis of race. Are we going to sacrifice lives on the altar of PC?

For the race-baiters, the answer is an emphatic yes. This would not be the first time that these self-appointed 'advocates' have put their self-aggrandizement and creating a controversy there should be none far above the interests of those whom they profess to champion.


4 posted on 04/23/2006 1:35:07 PM PDT by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: neverdem

Aren't they curious why it works for some, and not others? Wouldn't that be a legitimate part of the testing process?


5 posted on 04/23/2006 1:35:19 PM PDT by marron
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To: neverdem

Do they test new erectile dysfunction drugs on women? Some people just need to be slapped.


6 posted on 04/23/2006 1:38:16 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: neverdem

Patient-specific medicine has arrived, and it is the future standard of care.

Virtually every new drug will be tested against genetic profiles (especially cancer drugs, but others as well).


7 posted on 04/23/2006 1:38:16 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: neverdem
Yup.

Cozar instead of prinivil. Asians may develop a cough with prinivil, but not with cozar. White folks gobble both down like jellybeans.

8 posted on 04/23/2006 1:40:48 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: neverdem

And the big secret is that large numbers of drugs that are potentially very effective in humans have been discarded early in the research process because they failed the initial animal testing on mice, monkeys, and other lab animals when human testing would have shown them very effective. The puzzle is how to get around that roadblock. There are no good answers.


9 posted on 04/23/2006 1:48:21 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: neverdem
I saw some guy on Cavutos show that is producing vitamins targeted to race specific. Interesting.
10 posted on 04/23/2006 1:48:56 PM PDT by svcw
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To: MichiganConservative
Do they test new erectile dysfunction drugs on women? Some people just need to be slapped.

Plenty of women take ED drugs.

Viagra for women, more and more are turning to the impotence drug

11 posted on 04/23/2006 1:52:52 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: neverdem

Why can't they see that there is a difference between racial and racist?


12 posted on 04/23/2006 1:57:13 PM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: muawiyah
Coza[a]r instead of prinivil. Asians may develop a cough with prinivil, but not with [C]oza[a]r. White folks gobble both down like jellybeans.

I've known white people who stopped taking an ACE inhibitor because of unrelenting cough. It may be more prevalent in Asians, but is certainly not exclusive to them.

I've also treated many patients with angioedema (which can be life-threatening) caused by ACE inhibitors. Most of them have been black, but I've seen it in many white patients also.

P.S. I once took care of a white lady with sickle cell disease, on the same day I took care of a black guy with cystic fibrosis!

13 posted on 04/23/2006 2:04:50 PM PDT by absinthe
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To: FreedomCalls

Figures I'd pick the wrong example. Do they test tamoxifen on men? Birth control pills on men? Did they test RU-486 on men?


14 posted on 04/23/2006 2:05:48 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Well, the article said that no research had been done with viagra with women, they were just prescribing it. It was from 1998, though.


15 posted on 04/23/2006 2:10:25 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: absinthe
Amazing ~ the black guy must have had a French Canadian ancestor while the white lady must have been Greek.

I noticed in the discussion of ACE Inhibitors that Asian women have a 30% chance of developing the cough, while in men it is something like 7%.

Concerning white people with the cough, always remember appearances are deceiving. Never fail to ask your white patients taking ACE Inhibitors, who may or may not have a cough, if they are lactose intolerant too!

16 posted on 04/23/2006 2:11:08 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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Cozar instead of prinivil. Asians may develop a cough with prinivil, but not with cozar. White folks gobble both down like jellybeans.

Cozaar is an angiotensin receptor blocker. Prinivil is an angiotensin converting enzyme(ACE) inhibitor.

Large studies from the last 15 years and meta-analyses show a reduction of mortality of about 20% with ACE inhibitors in type 2 diabetic nephropathy; angiotensin-receptor-blockers have no documented effect on mortality yet, but do also slow the progression of nephropathy in type 2 diabetics.

17 posted on 04/23/2006 2:15:00 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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The fact is, certain medical conditions and pathogens do indeed affect people differently on the basis of race. Are we going to sacrifice lives on the altar of PC?

Yes. The PC dogma is that the only difference between whites and blacks is skin color. To admit that there are significant biological and biochemical differences opens the door to too many questions that they do not want to deal with

18 posted on 04/23/2006 2:21:37 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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Amazing ~ the black guy must have had a French Canadian ancestor while the white lady must have been Greek.

The lady told me she carried a Mediterranean sickle cell variant. I forget what the black guy told me.

19 posted on 04/23/2006 2:37:12 PM PDT by absinthe
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To: muawiyah

What is the lactose intolerance connection?


20 posted on 04/23/2006 2:38:51 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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