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Could they be escaping from liberalism?

Honestly, I am not a big fan of urban sprawl, but neither do I support the liberal ways, extreme costs and high crime of the big cities today. I'd rather settle out on a farm, or in a smaller community.

The same trends are probably occuring all throughout the industrialized world.

1 posted on 04/20/2006 1:59:55 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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high costs - and liberalism

Go hand in hand.

56 posted on 04/20/2006 3:31:08 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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bump


59 posted on 04/20/2006 3:44:05 PM PDT by VOA
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Last year I was looking at a move to Riverside but now it seems to make more sense to move from CA altogether. I pity those who are buying renovated apartments as condos for $300,000. If there truly is a housing bubble I fear they're going to be washed away.


61 posted on 04/20/2006 3:46:43 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't use illegals: HIREPATRIOTS.COM)
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We sure escaped from liberalism, noise, crime, etc.
We moved 120 miles east from the San Francisco bay area.

We now live in a Red county, in the mountains. Beautiful, quiet and conservative.


62 posted on 04/20/2006 3:50:01 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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Hey Mr. Mayor. Hold those Homo Olympics in Chicago this year and watch the population drop again (that is plus from the AIDS epidemic that's coming after the "festivities").


68 posted on 04/20/2006 4:29:33 PM PDT by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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This article is strange given a relatively recent one in the NYT that gave estimates of a large population increase in New York, NY, albeit because of immigration. See old FR post
69 posted on 04/20/2006 4:31:34 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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And just about everywhere, people are escaping to the outer suburbs, also known as exurbs.

I'm one of those guys. My house is on the north end of the most distant exurb from Plano Texas. I look north from my house and see nothing but forest for about .... 15 miles. So I'm happy to be on the edge of the styx.

71 posted on 04/20/2006 4:33:29 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Every man must be tempted, sometimes,to hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.)
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Years ago I read somewhere that when the researchers tried to increase rat population density in their cages, after certain threshold had been reached, the rats became psychotic [well, maybe not all the rats, but a proportion of them significant enough to be noticed]. This makes sense, and surely could be applied to humans - after all, there is only so much stress one could take before snapping. More, people normally do perceive their stress level, and usually try to manage it downward - hence the outmigration.
Now, is anyone doubting that in big cities the RAT density is higher than almost anywhere else?
74 posted on 04/20/2006 4:40:54 PM PDT by GSlob
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They are fleeing from the consequences of liberalism but paradoxically strengthening it as well.

As families leave cities become 'gay friendly' to attract a tax base. As sodomites become more politically important than Catholics in major cities their clout increases.


75 posted on 04/20/2006 4:42:03 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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But are those liberals from the cities now going to elect lefty politicians in formerly red states/counties?


79 posted on 04/20/2006 5:17:38 PM PDT by expatpat
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They are escaping the 'smart growth' people warehouses. They are terrible places for people and children.

This type of housing is pushed by people who are the antihumans, IMO, in the federal government, and it is mushrooming up in every city in the country due to EPA, DOT and various state agencies funding it. It gets its cue from the United Nations conference on human habitation from back in the late 1990s.


85 posted on 04/20/2006 5:36:47 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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People are getting out of Blue States before it gets even worse there. The Democrats may or may not win this November. But one thing is for sure: people are rejecting the Left's vision of the future with their feet.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

86 posted on 04/20/2006 6:04:50 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Could they be escaping from liberalism?




How about escaping from the inevitable "one minute urban renewal" program that will eventually arrive at some North American high density urban center, perhaps one very near you, courtesy of some Islamic nut-case placed WMD or ten?

Areas of high population density have huge bullseyes painted on them, with the marvelously inept "Homeland Defense" bureaucracy providing them with great security - NOT.

But stay where you are. We who have long since acquired homesplaces with comfortable, inexpensive quarters on the backside of the desert, or up in the mountains, or otherwise "way out in the middle of nowhere" (with full DSL internet access to the information archives of the world along with our other utilities) wish all you brave urban dwellers the best! The wonderful former residents of New Orleans have blazed the path for you to your FEMA-supplied emergency housing, so be assured that All Is Well, and Rest In Peace wherever you happen to be tonight.


87 posted on 04/20/2006 6:59:16 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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The only possible reason I can see why anyone would live in a large city would be for the employment. I'm retired but I moved from a large city 30 years ago. I just didn't need the aggravation. Right now I'm living in a small town in East Texas with a population of 18,000. I have everything I need right here and I don't have to drive all over Kingdom Come. I just don't get these big cities. What's the advantage? I don't see any. I'm on the internet. I get all of the television programming. All the shopping I need is close in. My car dealer is a mile away. Hospital is across the street. Restaurants aplenty. What I can't find locally, I can get off of ebay or Amazon. The P.O., UPS and FedEx comes to my door.

I don't get it. Who needs the aggravation, lousy weather, ice and snow up to one's butt. Doesn't make any sense to me.


88 posted on 04/20/2006 8:09:19 PM PDT by RichardW
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It sounds to me like everyone else is just now figuring out what we in the South already know. :)


89 posted on 04/20/2006 8:23:24 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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I left the big city 5 years ago and have never looked back. I'm 10 miles from the nearest town (pop 723).

Best move I ever made.

90 posted on 04/20/2006 8:35:12 PM PDT by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71)
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Honestly, I am not a big fan of urban sprawl, but neither do I support the liberal ways...

If you gave every man, woman and child in the United States a quarter acre of land each to live on, you would use up less than half the land in .... Texas. Yep. Do the math. "Sprawl" has been oversold.

93 posted on 04/20/2006 8:49:23 PM PDT by GOPJ (Tolerance of evil is not virtue)
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The problem, of course, is that many people who escape the parasite nests - - nests they largely fouled by voting Democrat - - bring their voting tendencies with them out to the suburbs and rural areas.


95 posted on 04/20/2006 9:00:43 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I'd rather settle out on a farm, or in a smaller community.

Good luck finding an open store at 2am for that special bottle of J.D. (for medicinal purposes, of course)

97 posted on 04/20/2006 9:09:19 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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Yes, and the folks leaving NYC are BLUE COLLAR whites, Nuyoricans, and middle class blacks. The affluent are still coming thank you very much...


101 posted on 04/20/2006 10:33:59 PM PDT by Clemenza (Amor de mi Vida, Donde Estas?)
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